Employee forgot to renew company van insurance !

bugslet

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

It's a works van, you assume work has insured it, don't you? bugslet, any of your drivers ever ask for proof their vehicle is insured? It's like saying "I think you're a dodgy company who might NOT insure their vehicles!" :rotfl:

I was thinking that on the way home sue. None of my drivers have ever asked to see a copy of the fleet insurance. I very much doubt out of Eddie Stobarts thousands of drivers, one of them has ever asked either.

dacouch

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

We have a van at work, and some people who drive their own car.

The business owner has a very convenient memory, and IMO is not meeting his obligations at all well - whether or not there's a lot going on, it's his business and he needs to take care of it!

Everyone who drives the work van shows us their driving licence and completes two forms, one from the insurance company, and one promising they won't drive under the influence and that they'll take any points issued for traffic offences etc. They also go out with an experienced driver to check they're OK, but only AFTER our insurance company has confirmed they're OK to drive.

Everyone who drives their own car for work has to show their insurance certificate, showing that they have cover for business use.

And no-one has ever asked to see the van's insurance certificate. Sure, there's a copy of it in the file of van documentation which lives on the van, but I'd be gob-smacked if any driver had ever thought to look for it.

It's a works van, you assume work has insured it, don't you? bugslet, any of your drivers ever ask for proof their vehicle is insured? It's like saying "I think you're a dodgy company who might NOT insure their vehicles!" :rotfl:

It would be sensible for your business to also check the driving licences of employees driving their own cars for work.

For both instances (Company van and own vehicles) it is best practice to check licences on a "regular" bases eg once a year

bugslet

dacouch wrote: »

It would be sensible for your business to also check the driving licences of employees driving their own cars for work.

For both instances (Company van and own vehicles) it is best practice to check licences on a "regular" bases eg once a year

In haulage most check every 6 months, though even that doesn't entirely work.

Ref the M1 accident about a month ago, the driver of the first truck had been reported as having his license revoked two months earlier. If his employer checked them every 6 months, then unless they were lucky, they would not know for some time potentially that he shouldn't be driving.

I much prefer paper counterparts, another layer of work to do now.

dacouch

bugslet wrote: »

In haulage most check every 6 months, though even that doesn't entirely work.

Ref the M1 accident about a month ago, the driver of the first truck had been reported as having his license revoked two months earlier. If his employer checked them every 6 months, then unless they were lucky, they would not know for some time potentially that he shouldn't be driving.

I much prefer paper counterparts, another layer of work to do now.

The six months check is sufficient to satisfy the H&S laws which require checking at "Reasonable" intervals. If the M1 drivers employer had checked his licence at reasonable intervals they are unlikely to have an problems (Providing they have checkable records).

Had they not been checking then the Directors and more likely the fleet manager could potentially be in serious trouble