A question for Jobseekers.

Mrs_p

This is a genuine question from a Universal Credit Work coach.
I have worked in the benefits system for the last twenty years and as such have seen a number of governments come and go I have also been the recipient of benefit twice in my adult life so am no stranger to making ends meet, 7p tins of beans and boiling eggs in the kettle?

My question is how would you pay people between jobs
Ensure its paid correctly?
Support people who need extra help?
Genuinely interested in how we can do this better?

DCFC79

Mrs_p wrote: »

This is a genuine question from a Universal Credit Work coach.
I have worked in the benefits system for the last twenty years and as such have seen a number of governments come and go, all of whom have had an agenda one way or another but I have never seen people so decided since the Thatcher era and I would ask those of you who are interested an overlooking for work whilst in receipt of benefit the following questions:
1. Do you think that you should be doing something to find work to receive benefits?
2. Do you think that you should provide evidence that you are looking for work?
3. As Tax payers should

1 Yes why shouldnt those who receive benefits look for work, i dont get paid to do naff all at work, if I did questions would be asked.

2 No harm in evidence being asked for, its fair evidence is asked for.

sjbrun

Isn't it for times like that you put some of your salary into a savings account every month?

ariarnia

sjbrun wrote: »

Isn't it for times like that you put some of your salary into a savings account every month?

That's an interesting point given I understand in some countries (in Europe such as Denmark and Sweden) unemployment insurance or unions paying unemployment allowances for members is both common and effective.

As is that benefit being stopped if you refuse a job you're capable of doing and that benefit only being paid for a fixed period based on how long you've paid in (with people generally finding work before the limit is reached).

Mentioning that it's in the Scandinavian countries as they're generally held up as the liberal/socialist ideal.

Also interesting how your questions completely changed between edits:

1. Do you think that you should be doing something to find work to receive benefits?
2. Do you think that you should provide evidence that you are looking for work?
3. As Tax payers should

My question is how would you pay people between jobs
Ensure its paid correctly?
Support people who need extra help?
Genuinely interested in how we can do this better?

Fireflyaway

I would toughen up things a lot! I'd make it a condition of receiving unemployment benefits that recipients have to earn their money. Get up maybe 2 days a week, meet at a designated place then go and clean the streets, collect rubbish, serve in a charity shop, do activities for old folks, walk rescue dogs etc. That would sort the genuine job seekers from the can't be bothered to work. Because so many wouldn't turn up, the money could be raised to a decent hourly rate for those who do. They would then benefit from being able to add skills on their CVS and try out work they maybe hadn't considered.
People have to want to help themselves. I see CVS that are totally rubbish. These people are either taking the mick or need help to improve them. Compulsory sessions where people are supported to improve interview skills etc. If you don't attend you don't get paid.
Hey failing this bring back work houses!
I've claimed unemployment once but accepted any work until I found a proper job. Many people won't, as this country has created job snobbery. People feel its below them to do certain tasks so they would rather sign on.

ohreally

You're being at best disingenuous given your completely different post edit and your excuse for the edit "Last edited by Mrs p; Yesterday at 10:52 PM. Reason: Spelling".

Perhaps your typical of the individuals known as job coaches!

annandale

And here come the benefit bashers. There are many people on benefits who work. Universal credit is an in work benefit and even those who aren't in work and on uc have to do up to a 35 hour a week job search

And evidence that they have done so. I know people on uc who volunteer 30 hours a week.

Numerous people on uc work part time.

I'm really not sure given that

annandale

Given that councils deal with rubbish collection in most areas that people would be allowed to go litter picking.

But I can assure you that people on uc don't do naff all for their benefits.

And a real work coach would know that people on uc have to jobsearch and evidence that they are doing so.

Clear that some of the people on this thread know zero about current benefits and the conditions attached to getting them. Or how many people claiming in work benefits like UC work or volunteer

nicechap

Another troll post - the difference between the quoted post by DCFC79 is so massive its clear the OP is neither a genuine job coach or asking real questions.

xapprenticex

Whats up with the question changes?

This is NOT what I saw last night

I smell a troll

Stylehutz

Fireflyaway wrote: »

I would toughen up things a lot! I'd make it a condition of receiving unemployment benefits that recipients have to earn their money. Get up maybe 2 days a week, meet at a designated place then go and clean the streets, collect rubbish, serve in a charity shop, do activities for old folks, walk rescue dogs etc. That would sort the genuine job seekers from the can't be bothered to work. Because so many wouldn't turn up.

Wouldnt it just be a better idea to scrap Jsa completely. Just let all those people who have just Lost their jobs fend for themselves whilst you sip on your cappucinho reading your Daily Mail.