Temporary Contract - what rights?

Homeagain

My daughter has worked at her present place of employment for just on one year. Apparently they are not happy with her performance and she received a text today saying they don't want to keep her on. Without going into too much detail, she is very happy there, works hard, always available but has made a few mistakes. The biggest problem appears to be her relationship with her new manager - they don't like each other and my daughter has probably been rather rude to her. My questions are: when does a temporary contract become a permanent contact (if ever); can one be dismissed via text; surely a warning letter or a verbal warning is necessary at some stage. Where does she go from here? I have spoken to her manager to see where the problems are and she agreed to a meeting between herself and my daughter (which the Manager has now cancelled). I believe that my daughter is in the wrong to an extent but have asked for a second chance on her behalf - which the manager tentatively agreed to but now seems to be backtracking. Any suggestions would be welcome as I don't want to interfere too much.

Guest101

Homeagain wrote: »

My daughter has worked at her present place of employment for just on one year. Apparently they are not happy with her performance and she received a text today saying they don't want to keep her on. Without going into too much detail, she is very happy there, works hard, always available but has made a few mistakes. The biggest problem appears to be her relationship with her new manager - they don't like each other and my daughter has probably been rather rude to her - Well then she has lost her job because of her attitude. . My questions are: when does a temporary contract become a permanent contact - that doesn't exist. However it takes two year to gain full employment rights (if ever); can one be dismissed via text - basically yes, but there should be some paperwork given also as she has been there over one year. ; surely a warning letter or a verbal warning is necessary at some stage - no . Where does she go from here? - job centre? I have spoken to her manager - WHAT??!! to see where the problems are and she agreed to a meeting between herself and my daughter (which the Manager has now cancelled) - too right, what on earth are you doing interfering? . I believe that my daughter is in the wrong to an extent but have asked for a second chance on her behalf - stop it. - which the manager tentatively agreed to but now seems to be backtracking. Any suggestions would be welcome as I don't want to interfere too much.

You already have. Never, ever, get involved in other people's employment (unless you're a rep or a solicitor!)

Homeagain

Oh dear but thanks for the advice.

Guest101

Homeagain wrote: »

Oh dear but thanks for the advice.

No problem, and sorry if I appear harsh.


Consider the managers position. They don't want to employ someone who gets their parent to ring up on their behalf when there are issues.


That's totally unprofessional. Makes her seem immature and basically unemployable.

itchyfeet123

Unless there are exceptional circumstances, like your daughter had the job only because of your relationship with the employer, or your daughter has a disability that prevents her advocating for herself, your direct involvement is more likely to make things worse than better. You may need to support your daughter in the background by encouraging her to stand up for her rights at work or ask for a second chance, but by doing the direct stuff you're signalling she isn't competent to do it herself -- it's hard to have confidence an employee will be able to solve problems that arise in the course of the job and generally be a valuable employee if she needs her mum/dad to get involved with work issues.

Homeagain

To be fair, although I take on all your comments I did point out to my daughter the mistakes she has made and she is clearly sorry and realises where she is going wrong. I also made her send the necessary apologetic text to her manager. This is a family run business and what I can't understand is that she has always had glowing reports from her employers including bonuses etc. Her manager did suggest to me that they start again on a probationary basis with training which is good. The manager has only been there for 4 weeks and is making quite radical changes (for the good). Its a shame really to be so harsh, my daughter just needed a wake up call.

Homeagain

She also has some learning difficulties (minor) but is quite able to handle this job - its bar work.

motorguy

Homeagain wrote: »

To be fair, although I take on all your comments I did point out to my daughter the mistakes she has made and she is clearly sorry and realises where she is going wrong. I also made her send the necessary apologetic text to her manager. This is a family run business and what I can't understand is that she has always had glowing reports from her employers including bonuses etc. Her manager did suggest to me that they start again on a probationary basis with training which is good. The manager has only been there for 4 weeks and is making quite radical changes (for the good). Its a shame really to be so harsh, my daughter just needed a wake up call.

Hmm. It rarely ever works out like that. A difficult employee rarely becomes the perfect employee due to a "wake up call".

Even the fact you "made her" send the apologetic text rather than her doing it off her own initiative doesnt bode well.

If she has been a difficult employee then there are consequences, particularly given shes a temp and under two years service.

Your interference IMHO isnt helping. I'd also suggest the employers / managers side of it plays our very differently to what your daughter is telling you.