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Can I stop being a guarentor?

My ex fianc! got an amigo loan with me being guarentor, since we broke up I have contributed more than I should have but she has now cancelled her DD and will not answer any phone call or message so I can find out what's going on. I am in the forces and have heard there is help out there but I'm not sure where to look? Any help would be great.


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  • Sparx
    Sparx Posts: 909 Forumite
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    Nope, once the agreement is live you can't remove yourself as guarantor. Otherwise everyone would do that wouldn't they? Amigo as a business has already taken the risk and paid out, having you as a contingency should your ex-partner not pay...

    Now the usual scenario has happened, the bad payer on a high-interest rate loan has decided to not pay. She doesn't care and has no intention to pay. So Amigo quite rightly will now come to you asking to pay up!

    Absolutely daft these guarantor loans, you may as well take out a cheap loan yourself & give him the money if you didn't have it!
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,610 Forumite
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    edited 18 August 2017 at 8:16PM
    Would have been explained to you when you agreed to being a guarantor.

    Your now stuck with paying it unless you can afford to pay it off in 1 go.

    You could maybe try contacting her parents or friends asking if they have heard from her and get them to speak to her, not guaranteed to work though.
  • Of course you can stop being a guarantor
    just take a loan out in your name to repay Amigo in full then that's it.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 30,239 Ambassador
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    My ex fianc! got an amigo loan with me being guarentor, since we broke up I have contributed more than I should have but she has now cancelled her DD and will not answer any phone call or message so I can find out what's going on. I am in the forces and have heard there is help out there but I'm not sure where to look? Any help would be great.


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    Hi,

    Firstly, thank you for your service I appreciate all you do for us !!

    Unfortunately if your ex has stopped paying her loan, then as guarentor, you are now responsible for those payments.

    The company will come after you for the money.

    You can get help and advice from one of the free debt charities in my signature, you may also want to contact SAFFA to see if they can be any help to you :

    https://www.ssafa.org.uk

    Good luck, any more help you need please feel free to ask.

    (Ex forces family)
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  • Geoff1963
    Geoff1963 Posts: 1,088 Forumite
    If the Amigo loan is paid off early, do you pay less than N x M where N is the Number of months left, and M is the monthly payment ?
    If so, you should get a ( cheaper ) loan yourself elsewhere. If not, ( like e.g. Brighthouse ) then paying it off early saves you nothing.

    A loan guarantor is rather like some one who posts bail for someone ; if they don't do as promised, the guarantor has to fork out.
  • Brains64
    Brains64 Posts: 210 Forumite
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    You are technically responsible if you signed the so-called contract but one thing I would point out which might help to ease your worries is that these loan companies are all skating on legal thin ice anyway as businesses, Guarantor or otherwise, Amigo are no exception, they are as dodgy as all the others, so when someone runs into debt with them, whether they have to deal with that person or their Guarantor, as per the thing they laughingly call a "contract" which could be picked apart by an expert Lawyer in minutes, they can't do as much as they would like you to think they can.

    All these lenders can do is phone the person or the Guarantor that they consider is responsible for the debt and send them letters, if that fails, eventually, they just sell the debt off to a debt collector who has got naff all legal power anyway, remember, they are all private companies, they are not proper Baliffs with any real legal power, they might come to your house but they can't force their way in, if you don't want to talk to them, they can't do a thing about it at that point, they CAN take it to court, sure but in all honesty, it's more trouble for them than it's worth, most won't bother, so all they can do is just keep phoning you or writing to you or visiting you every so often, they will probably try to make you a repayment offer or just threaten you with legal action etc if you don't get in contact with them about it.

    However, if you just don't respond, they themselves can't do a thing about it and if in the unlikely event, they do take you to court, the court won't consider it to be a big deal, it's not like Council Tax, this is just some meaningless private debt to them, they will probably just make a suitable arrangement for you to repay the debt, there's really nothing to fear accept fear itself, don't let these loan companies worry you, if anyone should be worried, it's them, because they are being slowly cracked down on, their days are numbered, it wouldn't surprise me if one day they will all be ordered to write off all debts because they are all so legally iffy anyway.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,210 Forumite
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    That's terrible advice - refusing to pay the loan will trash your own credit rating. Bailiffs can still be invoked from private debt after court approval.

    Unfortunately the only real solution is to take out a loan at a normal rate and pay off the Amigo loan. Will save you a fortune and let you clear it much faster.

    You can attempt to reclaim from the ex, but if her credit rating was so bad she needed a guarantor then she probably doesn't have any money to give you.
  • Shakin_Steve
    Shakin_Steve Posts: 2,783 Forumite
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    edited 10 November 2017 at 10:09PM
    Brains64 wrote: »
    You are technically responsible if you signed the so-called contract but one thing I would point out which might help to ease your worries is that these loan companies are all skating on legal thin ice anyway as businesses, Guarantor or otherwise, Amigo are no exception, they are as dodgy as all the others, so when someone runs into debt with them, whether they have to deal with that person or their Guarantor, as per the thing they laughingly call a "contract" which could be picked apart by an expert Lawyer in minutes, they can't do as much as they would like you to think they can.

    All these lenders can do is phone the person or the Guarantor that they consider is responsible for the debt and send them letters, if that fails, eventually, they just sell the debt off to a debt collector who has got naff all legal power anyway, remember, they are all private companies, they are not proper Baliffs with any real legal power, they might come to your house but they can't force their way in, if you don't want to talk to them, they can't do a thing about it at that point, they CAN take it to court, sure but in all honesty, it's more trouble for them than it's worth, most won't bother, so all they can do is just keep phoning you or writing to you or visiting you every so often, they will probably try to make you a repayment offer or just threaten you with legal action etc if you don't get in contact with them about it.

    However, if you just don't respond, they themselves can't do a thing about it and if in the unlikely event, they do take you to court, the court won't consider it to be a big deal, it's not like Council Tax, this is just some meaningless private debt to them, they will probably just make a suitable arrangement for you to repay the debt, there's really nothing to fear accept fear itself, don't let these loan companies worry you, if anyone should be worried, it's them, because they are being slowly cracked down on, their days are numbered, it wouldn't surprise me if one day they will all be ordered to write off all debts because they are all so legally iffy anyway.
    I know it’s Friday night, but are you p**sed? Coming on a forum such as this and dishing out advice that that is very irresponsible. Money has been borrowed, from a legitimate loan company. A contract has been signed. Your opinion of the loan company is irrelevant. The OP risks ruining their future financial position by having their credit file trashed for six years.

    If you are so sure of your position, get your nearest and dearest to take out payday loans and you can act as guarantor. Then tell them not to pay because you’re not worried about them chasing you for the money.
    Brains 64. Is that the amount of cells?
    I came into this world with nothing and I've got most of it left.
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,610 Forumite
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    I know it’s Friday night, but are you p**sed? Coming on a forum such as this and dishing out advice that that is very irresponsible. Money has been borrowed, from a legitimate loan company. A contract has been signed. Your opinion of the loan company is irrelevant. The OP risks ruining their future financial position by having their credit file trashed for six years.

    If you are so sure of your position, get your nearest and dearest to take out payday loans and you can act as guarantor. Then tell them not to pay because you’re not worried about them chasing you for the money.
    Brains 64. Is that the amount of cells?

    OP hasnt been back since august, brains64 decided to drag up an old thread.
  • Brains64
    Brains64 Posts: 210 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    That's terrible advice - refusing to pay the loan will trash your own credit rating. Bailiffs can still be invoked from private debt after court approval.

    Unfortunately the only real solution is to take out a loan at a normal rate and pay off the Amigo loan. Will save you a fortune and let you clear it much faster.

    You can attempt to reclaim from the ex, but if her credit rating was so bad she needed a guarantor then she probably doesn't have any money to give you.

    I know it’s Friday night, but are you p**sed? Coming on a forum such as this and dishing out advice that that is very irresponsible. Money has been borrowed, from a legitimate loan company. A contract has been signed. Your opinion of the loan company is irrelevant. The OP risks ruining their future financial position by having their credit file trashed for six years.

    If you are so sure of your position, get your nearest and dearest to take out payday loans and you can act as guarantor. Then tell them not to pay because you’re not worried about them chasing you for the money.
    Brains 64. Is that the amount of cells?

    Show me where I told the OP to 'refuse to pay' the loan, that's not what I said, try actually reading what I said and understanding what I meant, if the OP wants to pay the loan back then, of course, they should, what I was trying to explain to them is that if the worst comes to the worst and they have difficulties keeping up with the payments, don't let it worry them, because there is only so much they loan company can do legally to recover the debt, no loan company uses REAL Baliffs, they use private debt collectors that try to act as if they are Baliffs but they are not, if they CLAIM to be real Court Baliffs or try to give the impression they are, ask to see their ID and check them out, I think you will find they are nothing of the sort.
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