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Toil

I have a member of staff who thinks if they choose to work through part of their lunch break they are entitled to toil. I don't agree. Thoughts?

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  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,465 Forumite
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    If its their choice to do it and you haven't asked then they are voluntarily working for nothing during that period.

    Of course you can always enforce their lunch break by insisting that it is spent away from the workfare.
  • JJG
    JJG Posts: 346 Forumite
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    In my place of work TOIL must be approved by a manager before being claimed.
  • This individual has frequently been asked to make sure they take their lunch break. They just left a toil form on my desk. It hasn't and won't be signed unless I am legally obliged to At no time have they said they intended to claim toil.
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
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    If they often feel they have to work through lunch to manage their workload and have never tried to claim TOIL previously it sounds like a sensible management talk is had with knee jerk reactions postponed until that's happened. If one of my staff did this, I'd want to know why first and if I had been at fault for not noticing their workload had increased to a point they weren't managing during normal working hours so I could do something to address that. If they were just taking the Mick however my reaction would be the same as yours.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    need some context.

    If there is an official TOIL policy in place have the rules been followed.


    if an unofficial TOIL or flexability would this fit the normal pattern.

    if no policy what are the normal rules for overtime.

    As there is a form suspect there is a policy so what are the rules for working time that can be used to accrue TOIL

    have they been followed. y
    eg. do people have to get time approved in advance or can the just work the time if the job required it?
  • robatwork
    robatwork Posts: 7,350 Forumite
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    If not agreed up front then of course not.

    We often have a situation where a member of staff will for example request to work 30 mins of lunch that day and leave 30 mins early to go to the dentist.

    Or they need to come in an hour early to do something before our clients start work, so can they leave early or come in late the following day.

    But this is all agreed with a manager first, not self-initiated.
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