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  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,390 Forumite
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    edited 30 July 2017 at 11:27AM
    Solar2017 wrote: »
    Is that price just for the system or for the installation and scaffolding.

    I was suspicious of the 'volt doctor' so is it useless?

    Can anyone suggest any companies which are worth while inquiring into for these prices .. I am living in South East Kent if the information is required.

    Thank you for the reply.
    Hi

    As others have mentioned, a good price for a 4kWp system would be around £5k, so around £1250/kWp, however a smaller system would cost more/kWp due to costs which aren't readily diluted by size such as scaffold & inverter .... best guess (finger in air type!) ... a 3kWp (75% of 4kWp) would be around 85% of the price.

    I recently posted a link on another thread to some analysis which has recently been done on average UK PV installation prices over the last 4 years. It's just as valid in this case and supports what others have said regarding your quote ...

    Solar PV Installation Cost Analysis April13 March17 (1-4kWp)
    ...

    .... Don't forget the prices in that analysis are average and that you should be looking to pay as far below average as possible !!

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,390 Forumite
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    edited 29 July 2017 at 11:22PM
    Cardew wrote: »
    As I posted earlier!

    Look at my post#6 and then the reaction!

    I am not arguing against battery storage, just voicing my opinion that it should not get a subsidy.
    ... Yet, as others have mentioned, the nuclear industry has been subsidised for well over 60 years and looks to be (through cfd) for another 40+, so around a century will be the minimum even if HinckleyC is the last !

    Now, if batteries alone, or Batteries+ PV, can be installed at a lower level of subsidy than nuclear, what's the benefit to the consumer of supporting a higher form of consumer/taxpayer subsidy for nuclear? ... it's illogical ...

    Regarding the post#6 comment ...
    ...When batteries become cheap enough they will revolutionise the industry, storing cheap electricity from the mains for those without access to solar/wind. However they shouldn't need to depend on subsidies ...
    ... wouldn't the point still be valid if it were .... 'When nuclear power stations become cheap enough they will revolutionise the industry, generating cheap electricity for those without access to solar/wind & batteries. However they shouldn't need to depend on subsidies.'

    In being artificially supported by various subsidies for what looks to be a period of well over a century at the moment, isn't it time that the nuclear industry either pulls it socks up and starts to deliver to the claim made over 60 years ago that "Our children will enjoy in their homes electrical energy too cheap to meter", or simply calls last orders before packing up and declaring failure ... perhaps that's it, HinckleyC should be that nuclear 'last orders' bell, a call for the industry to cut their costs and put-up with absolutely no form of subsidy, or shut up - for good!

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • silverwhistle
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    Have you got an immersion tank? If so it might be worthwhile to ask for a diverter to be included in your quote. I've got an iBoost which diverts spare power and I don't use any gas for hot water for nearly 8 months of the year and it helps a bit during the winter months as well. I still end up exporting a fair bit, but it's a cheap and existing way of storage until battery prices come down.

    In the meantime put your first quote in the bin.
  • warrenb
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    The thread is highjacked because you bite. The poor poster has now received no advice because you all fall for it everytime.
    Don't bite

    My advice to the poster is that quote you received is about double what it should be
    Living in supposedly sunny Kent
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  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,396 Forumite
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    warrenb wrote: »
    The thread is highjacked because you bite. The poor poster has now received no advice because you all fall for it everytime.
    Don't bite

    Yes, but:
    1. I have given advice to the OP, as have others.
    2. Easy for you to say, but Cardew has been trolling me personally for half a decade now with his lies and misinformation.
    3. I have experimented in the past with ignoring him, and he actually ramped up his trolling of the G&E board, and particularly his references to me.

    So it's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Solar2017
    Solar2017 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Link not working for me, thank you everyone for the advice so far,

    I dont have a emuersion tank so that suggest is not help but thank you for the reply.

    I have 3 quotes coming in the next two weeks so I hope better...

    I have just googled solar panel installers in my area etc. And all i am getting is the same few companies, as posted before any help with any companies who don't rip people off would be brilliant I am living in South East Kent.

    Thanks again for all replies.

    Solar 2017.
  • Martyn1981
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    Solar2017 wrote: »
    Link not working for me, thank you everyone for the advice so far,

    Solar 2017.

    Here you are try this instead:

    Solar PV – Frequently Asked Questions and Answers
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Cardew
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    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    Yes, but:

    2. Easy for you to say, but Cardew has been trolling me personally for half a decade now with his lies and misinformation.
    3. I have experimented in the past with ignoring him, and he actually ramped up his trolling of the G&E board, and particularly his references to me.

    So it's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Your definition of trolling is anyone posting something with which you disagree.

    You have recently posted that you are trolled by several posters on another forum. - presumably their disagreement is defined as trolling?

    Just look at your reaction to my mild comment about battery subsidies.
    Yawn. Same ole Cardew, same ole hypocritical garbage.

    Same ole Cardew, same ole garbage.

    Yawn! More Cardew garbage.

    Still no answer explaining your hypocritical support of nuclear subsidies .... I note, just the same lies and nonsense you've been vomitting up every 6 months or so for the last 5 yrs about me.

    One could almost think it was personal, or ideological ...... but I'll just assume it's an angry old man, shouting at the world, coz he didn't get his (minority) way.

    Yet you think that you are being trolled! Take the advice offered above and ignore my posts.
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,396 Forumite
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    Cardew wrote: »
    You have recently posted that you are trolled by several posters on another forum. - presumably their disagreement is defined as trolling?

    They remind me of you actually, they follow me around like lost sheep, having a dig each time I post some good news about renewables. That's the trouble with the extreme nukers, their hypocrisy blinds them to the truth, leaving them wed to failed 20th century solutions.

    Pop back under your bridge and give the lies, abuse and trolling a rest. :wave::wave::wave:
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,390 Forumite
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    Solar2017 wrote: »
    Link not working for me ...
    Hi

    Fixed the link ....
    zeupater wrote: »
    Hi

    As others have mentioned, a good price for a 4kWp system would be around £5k, so around £1250/kWp, however a smaller system would cost more/kWp due to costs which aren't readily diluted by size such as scaffold & inverter .... best guess (finger in air type!) ... a 3kWp (75% of 4kWp) would be around 85% of the price.

    I recently posted a link on another thread to some analysis which has recently been done on average UK PV installation prices over the last 4 years. It's just as valid in this case and supports what others have said regarding your quote ...

    Solar PV Installation Cost Analysis April13 March17 (1-4kWp)
    ...

    .... Don't forget the prices in that analysis are average and that you should be looking to pay as far below average as possible !!

    HTH
    Z

    ... put it down to a regular late evening disconnect somewhere between the brain & keyboard .. ;)

    Anyway, that'll give an idea of the maximum price (£/kWp) you should be looking to pay and could be used as a part of your negotiating tool-set because the figures represent actual costs on all systems (hundreds-of-thousands) registered for FiTs over the period as opposed to a subjective 'guess' ...

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
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