Euthymol

Looks like its disappeared from the shelves again, anyone seen any lately?

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  • Toothsmith
    Toothsmith Posts: 10,101 Forumite
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    About time. Useless product - but I doubt it will be gone for good, unfortunately.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
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  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    That's not quite true TS . It's excellent for bringing up grubby grouting in between tiles in the bathroom.

    The fact it has no fluoride and has the highest abrasion index of any tooth paste does mean it will both wear away the enamel and give you no protection against decay so it is useless / potentially damaging as a toothpaste.
  • savingfortomorrow
    savingfortomorrow Posts: 1,058 Forumite
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    edited 19 July 2017 at 9:37AM
    brook2jack wrote: »
    That's not quite true TS . It's excellent for bringing up grubby grouting in between tiles in the bathroom.

    The fact it has no fluoride and has the highest abrasion index of any tooth paste does mean it will both wear away the enamel and give you no protection against decay so it is useless / potentially damaging as a toothpaste.

    Thanks for the tip, some of the grout are looking terrible and i can't use too strong chemicals.
  • jamels2
    jamels2 Posts: 437 Forumite
    Where does it says its abrasive?
  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    Euthymol is only available in the UK so little on websites about it , although plenty of dentists can post pictures of damage from it.. However it contains aluminium oxide as its abrasive component , the same stuff dentists use in air abrasion to cut holes in teeth. Ask your dentist , most abhor euthymol. Alternatively look for its alternative uses eg for removing scratches from mobile phone screens https://www.diy-forums.com/threads/polishing-mobile-phone-screen.188007/

    It also has no fluoride so is useless for fighting decay.
  • helcat26
    helcat26 Posts: 1,119 Forumite
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    Isn't it pink? What colour does it leave the grout?
  • A.Penny.Saved
    A.Penny.Saved Posts: 1,832 Forumite
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    Sainsbury sells it and so do ASDA.
  • A.Penny.Saved
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    brook2jack wrote: »
    Euthymol is only available in the UK so little on websites about it , although plenty of dentists can post pictures of damage from it.. However it contains aluminium oxide as its abrasive component , the same stuff dentists use in air abrasion to cut holes in teeth. Ask your dentist , most abhor euthymol. Alternatively look for its alternative uses eg for removing scratches from mobile phone screens https://www.diy-forums.com/threads/polishing-mobile-phone-screen.188007/

    It also has no fluoride so is useless for fighting decay.
    There is no aluminium oxide in the ingredients so unless you are commenting on the formulation before it was reformulated in around 2014, due to the EU, then no it does not.

    There are two CI numbers, one is titanium dioxide and the other is a food colouring, so unless it is an unlisted ingredient then you are mistaken.

    BTW you can stick your fluoride toothpaste where the sun does not shine. ;)
    Moral of the story:
    Dentists, not always a reliable source of information. Question and double or triple check all advice given. I have received incorrect information, on a number of occasions from past dentists.
  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    You are quite right, alumium oxide is no longer used , they use quartz (silica) instead.https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/default.aspx?id=255133210

    This is a highly abrasive compound as well. In fact in dental research euthymol is used to simulate years of wear in experiments https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317400720_The_Early_Erosive_and_Abrasive_Challenge_A_Profilometric_Electron_Microscopic_and_Microhardness_Study_Using_Human_Bovine_and_Ovine_Enamel

    The fact it is used to polish plastics such as window hatches on boats should really reinforce the fact that no matter what the abrasive used , euthymol is the equivalent of sandpapering teeth.

    Most dentists will caution against it because they will have seen gross wear , sometimes virtually cutting a tooth in half , on people using it.

    In the US toothpastes have a RDA rating for abrasiveness. Unfortunately we do not have this in a U.K. and many of our worst offenders e.g. Euthmol, eucryl, pearl drops etc are mostly only sold in the U.K.

    I'm afraid using fluoride in the manner you suggest is unlikely to give the health benefits using it as a toothpaste does.
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