Buy Your Things Online website (BYTO) is it a scam ?

varkanoid

I have been searching for a cheap price on Onkyo SKSHT588 speaker set and came across a site called Buy Your Things Online (b-yto.com). It looks pretty legit and the About us page looks genuine although the Reevoo rating looks a bit dodgy.

It looks like you shop on their website and get a good deal on all sorts of items and the "catch" is they could be delivered from all over the world but you are only charged a decent delivery charge and the price says includes all taxes.

So the SKSHT588 were £269 which is about £70 cheaper than anywhere else. I did a search for this website for reviews and google shows nothing, then I am thinking is this because they picked a name that is difficult to google ?

Anyway I decided to take the plunge I can use my credit card I should be protected. Adding them to the basket filled in my details and it said the speakers would come from their Distribution centre in Spain and the DPD deliver was £9. Looked at payment options and you have bank transfer, or credit card. You dont see many e-tailers offering bank transfer. Anyway selected Credit Card it clicked on confirmed order and instead of getting the payment screen I got the thank you for order screen. Eh ? I had not entered payment details. It then says in small print "You will receive payment link from our processator by email". This had my alarm bells ringing again.

So I have received an email confirmation of the order but an hour later still not request for payment. Not too worried as I never gave any payment details but is this just a phishing website to get your name, address and phone number. It seems an odd way to do it as these details you could get by other means. There is not even any marketing tick boxes like usual.

Is this a scam ? Yet I can not find anybody else that has used this website and reviewed it or even reported it as a con ?

dlusman

when you search for their Elgin address
"3 Springfield Retail Park, IV30 6WQ"

Unit 3 is listed as a Currys

https://elgin.cylex-uk.co.uk/map/edgar%20road%2c%20springfield%20retail%20park.html

varkanoid

According to Curry's website its Unit 8. Found out PC World used to be Unit 3 and since they merged with Curry's shops Unit 3 is either empty or someone else has took it.

Browntoa

Only registered a week ago

http://whois.domaintools.com/b-yto.com

Looks dodgy

Browntoa

So called image of their CEO is stolen from here

https://www.lionbridge.com/en-gb/about/management-team/rory-j-cowan

They claim it's Frederick Lawrence their CEO

http://www.b-yto.com/en/content/4-about-us

If you look at the pictures

So I call SCAM WEBSITE

dlusman

Their UK distribution centre - 17 Duncannon Dr , Falmouth -
looks a little small !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/17+Duncannon+Dr,+Falmouth+TR11+4AQ/@50.1524788,-5.0857317,3a,75y,223.22h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNOMbAqtkE3bOAfKr7Cb_Og!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x486b3b5506bb1397:0x674590318d88aa5a!8m2!3d50.1523922!4d-5.0858015

( and according to google maps - 17 Duncannon Drive is also base for "Burrow s Max mobile phone shop" & "I Fit That - car stereos" )

And they are also using this website with exactly the same details
http://www.lovethestore.eu/en/

As Browntoa found they seem to have pinched their whole management team from Lionbridge.
Their sales director "Davin Lamb" also works for Lionbridge as Rich Tobin
https://www.lionbridge.com/en-gb/about/management-team/rich-tobin

and have a look at others on the Lionbridge team -
https://www.lionbridge.com/en-gb/about/management-team

varkanoid

they finally sent me an email with a link to Transferwise which looks legit so its definitely dodgy.

An e-tailer website that doesnt take proper payments.

Have reported it to Action Fraud (Police) and Trading Standards.

Unit 3 Springfield Retail Park in Elgin was actually Brantano who have just gone bust and shut all their shops in the last two months.

GoodShep

Thanks for the research and the warnings.
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They also use w w w "byto-store.eu/"

victim74

Bought à latop which never arrived at home. Now website is closed..
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