Jury Service / Lieu Time
generalhammond
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Hi, I'll try and keep this brief.
So i'm on jury service (for the 3rd time!).
The company I work for has chosen not to pay me during the time. (Possibly upto 3 weeks).
I will be claiming the £64 per day max from the court.
I earn more than this after tax.
I am owed a considerable amount of lieu hours from my employer. I have offered to take the jury service period as lieu as i'm not going to be in work anyway.
What I wanted to do was to also claim the court payment aswell.
My HR director has told me I cant do that as it would be fraud!
Now.. As I see it, my company are actually paying me for work already done and not for the time when i'm on Jury service.
I'm even having to go in at the weekend to cover shifts!
I cant find any details anywhere on this. The court is pretty useless, there's never anyone on the jury helpdesk!!
Anyone come across this before?
Anyway, i'm a week into the Jury service and finding it quite rewarding as I did on the previous occasions. I can highly recommend doing it.
So i'm on jury service (for the 3rd time!).
The company I work for has chosen not to pay me during the time. (Possibly upto 3 weeks).
I will be claiming the £64 per day max from the court.
I earn more than this after tax.
I am owed a considerable amount of lieu hours from my employer. I have offered to take the jury service period as lieu as i'm not going to be in work anyway.
What I wanted to do was to also claim the court payment aswell.
My HR director has told me I cant do that as it would be fraud!
Now.. As I see it, my company are actually paying me for work already done and not for the time when i'm on Jury service.
I'm even having to go in at the weekend to cover shifts!
I cant find any details anywhere on this. The court is pretty useless, there's never anyone on the jury helpdesk!!
Anyone come across this before?
Anyway, i'm a week into the Jury service and finding it quite rewarding as I did on the previous occasions. I can highly recommend doing it.
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Here's the link https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/what-you-can-claim. It refers to payment for loss of earnings but, if you are using lieu time and therefore actually being paid by your employer, you have no loss of earnings. I think your director may be correct but it's certainly not clear cut.
I think you need to continue to try to get through to the help desk.0 -
im thinking of volunteering to do this.0
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I'm sure you have said this before and again I will say you don't volunteer. You are randomly selected to do it.Mortgage free wannabe
Actual mortgage stating amount £75,150
Overpayment start date 1/3/23.
Starting balance £66,565.45
Current balance £63,787.160 -
He has stated it in the past but never seems to understand what you say.0
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Actually it was me that said it before (probably).Sometimes my advice may not be great, but I'm not perfect and I do try my best. Please take this into account.0
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I've said it before on a post about jobseekers and doing this. TheMortgage free wannabe
Actual mortgage stating amount £75,150
Overpayment start date 1/3/23.
Starting balance £66,565.45
Current balance £63,787.160 -
And back to the subject, I believe that the HR Director is correct. More - I recall that the employer must fill in a form... actually, I just found it! It says "The Juries Act 1974 Section 19(1) specifically states that any expenses and loss of earnings can only be reimbursed to the juror where there has been a financial loss to the juror as a direct result of jury service." You will have no financial loss if you use your lieu time. I seriously doubt your employer is going to attest to a loss when there isn't one. You must either take the time unpaid and claim the loss of earnings allowance, or use the lieu time and forego the allowance.0
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And back to the subject, I believe that the HR Director is correct. More - I recall that the employer must fill in a form... actually, I just found it! It says "The Juries Act 1974 Section 19(1) specifically states that any expenses and loss of earnings can only be reimbursed to the juror where there has been a financial loss to the juror as a direct result of jury service." You will have no financial loss if you use your lieu time. I seriously doubt your employer is going to attest to a loss when there isn't one. You must either take the time unpaid and claim the loss of earnings allowance, or use the lieu time and forego the allowance.
Below is a link to a copy of the form
https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/loss-certificate-eng.pdf0
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