Cycling and the Economy

Altarf

silverwhistle wrote: »

I admit it. In my defence can I just say I blinked:

http://www.cyclinguk.org/news/20161124-worst-worst%E2%80%A6-shocking-cycle-lane-stories

You make my point. Stop wasting money on ALL cycling provisions and you would prevent this nonsense.

brat

Altarf wrote: »

That sounds reasonable, if you can't put in a "properly segregated cycle route" then the authorities should save their money and not put anything in place.

And for those where there is a "properly segregated cycle route" to gain the benefit from the expenditure the authorities should obviously prohibit cyclists from using the roads that are bypassed by the "properly segregated cycle route".

If a fully segregated cycle route is available and convenient, then cyclists, even including Johno's favourite fulminati, would use them. But if not safe or convenient, the cyclist should and will still use the road. That wont change, nor do I understand why you would want it to.

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

You make my point. Stop wasting money on ALL cycling provisions and you would prevent this nonsense.

I say build more roads,ease congestion and make car use more attractive............

silverwhistle

Altarf wrote: »

You make my point. Stop wasting money on ALL cycling provisions and you would prevent this nonsense.

I don't make your point at all. The fact that money is wasted on stupidities doesn't then follow that ALL cycling provision should be stopped. We've seen recently the fatal consequences of penny-pinching and spending money on appearances rather than fundamental safety.

I'm not even a very regular cyclist - occasional trips to the shops or the sailing club - but the amount of stupidity I see below the line on newspaper cycling blogs and here leads me to the conclusion that it isn't the lycra brigade [and crikey, please use a different cliche somebody] who are the entitled mob but a curious breed of motorist who only want money spent on themselves.

Don't know why I bother really, as even evidence fails to convince them of the part different means of transport play, or could play, in our society. I suspect it's breathing in too much NO as they sit in traffic. S0d it, I'm off for a cold drink at the sailing club, normal shorts and sleeveless top, although going bra-less might be a step too far. I'm not even going to wear my helmet.., but definitely suncream..

Altarf

brat wrote: »

If a fully segregated cycle route is available and convenient, then cyclists, even including Johno's favourite fulminati.

No they won't.

I have mentioned before a wanabee organ donor I pass in the mornings who instead of riding down a perfectly designed £2.5 million cyclepath requested by Sustrans and designed by them, instead takes a longer route down a busy A road (and doesn't bother with high viz either).

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

No they won't.

I have mentioned before a wanabee organ donor I pass in the mornings who instead of riding down a perfectly designed £2.5 million cyclepath requested by Sustrans and designed by them, instead takes a longer route down a busy A road (and doesn't bother with high viz either).

Ahh the cyclist who sets the rules for all.
you should have said. Didnt realise you meant him. of course that makes it different.

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

Ahh the cyclist who sets the rules for all.
you should have said. Didnt realise you meant him. of course that makes it different.

I am glad you agree with my view that if dedicated cycling provisions exist, then cyclists should be prohibited from the road.

It is only for their own good.

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

I am glad you agree with my view that if dedicated cycling provisions exist, then cyclists should be prohibited from the road.

It is only for their own good.

Oh yes. I mean why is that cyclist on the road with a brand new segregated cycle route alongside it.
Hanging is too good for her!

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

Oh yes. I mean why is that cyclist on the road with a brand new segregated cycle route alongside it.
Hanging is too good for her!

Now you have gone too far. She should be made to pay a severe fine and her bicycle seized and destroyed.

It is for their own good.

brat

Altarf wrote: »

No they won't.

I have mentioned before a wanabee organ donor I pass in the mornings who instead of riding down a perfectly designed £2.5 million cyclepath requested by Sustrans and designed by them, instead takes a longer route down a busy A road (and doesn't bother with high viz either).

Did you ever let us see that route? Where is it?