Bad response from employer giving in notice

jazzy78987

Hi All,

I have accepted the offer of a new position yesterday. The job is in an industry I'm really interested in and a job that I can see myself progressing in.

To give you a bit of background, my boss is my boyfriend's dad's partner. It was a terrible idea taking the job in the first place with the personal relationship, but a high salary and various benefits were promised, although never delivered. That was the beginning of a whole array of problems I've experienced in the role in the past two years. Being underpaid, not paid on time, 'tax' being taken from other employees who should not be paying it, constantly being put down and having mistakes pinned on me, being belittled, no lunch breaks, working on weekends when it was agreed that I wouldn't need to, to name but a few. It had gotten to a point where I was experiencing extreme anxiety and mild depression due to the role.

I had been nervous about handing in my notice as I know what my employer is like but decided to just be honest and explain that I am looking for a change in career, without making any personal remarks about her as a manager.

This morning, I got to work and told her that I had been offered a new role that I was going to take, and explained that due to the personal side of our relationship and due to wanting a change in career, I would be leaving. She seemed okay with this and said that she understood my reasoning.

She asked me how long I was giving as notice, and I told her that I would be giving two weeks. I have not signed a contract, however she did send me over a contract at the beginning of my employment there, in which the notice period was two weeks, so this is what I chose to go by.

Immediately, she got very defensive and told me that this was extremely disappointing and that I should be giving 4 weeks notice as I am paid monthly. I told her that I'd never heard of this as a rule and have not seen anything online indicating this is how it should work. I told her that in the contract she had given me, it outlined that I should give two weeks notice.

She told me that as I had not signed the contract, she wanted me to contact my new employer and tell them that I will be working a 4 week notice period for her.

I told her that I wouldn't be doing this. She then proceeded to say that she felt she had been really fair with her reaction to me leaving, and that I should know how busy they are, implying that my timing for leaving was inconvenient for the company. She kept telling me how disappointed she was.

At this point, I did end up getting rather upset and told her that I have done a lot for her and have kept quite whilst an array of issues with my employment there went on. I told her that it had gotten to the point where the job had caused me to experience anxiety and depression and to be honest, her reaction was just the straw that broke the camels back really.

I wasn't feeling well today either so told her that I was going home. I know it wasn't right to just leave, but I just couldn't stand to be in there with her, with her talking to me the way she was.

I then received a text from another member of staff saying that she had told her that I'd left.

Does anyone have any advice on how I should proceed? I highly doubted that I would get a reference from her anyway, despite numerous customers telling her how much they appreciate my service and various clients asking me to let them know if I am ever looking for a job. I know I am really good at my job and for some reason, all she ever wants to do is put me down. I think she panicked when I told her I was leaving and was looking for a way to control the situation.

I was thinking of sending her an email saying that, as I had said earlier, I am willing to work the notice period I gave her of two weeks. If this isn't acceptable then I wish the company the best for the future.

If she doesn't choose to accept this notice period, does she need to pay me two weeks regardless?

It is such a strenuous task trying to get her to pay you, and little things like holiday pay and the pay for my notice period I know are going to be near on impossible to get from her!

I'm also due to be paid tomorrow, I have no idea whether this is going to happen or not.

I am just so frustrated!!!! I have done so much for her and she's just oblivious to it all.

As I say, any advice greatly appreciated.

agrinnall

You've written a lot (too much really) but missed out some vital information:

How long exactly have you worked there (more or less than 2 years is important)?

Do you have any accrued but untaken holiday?

In the meantime, here are the rules on notice periods:

https://www.gov.uk/handing-in-your-notice/giving-notice

and

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4096

jazzy78987

Hi, sorry I will try and shorten.

I have been working there for 1 year and 7 months.

Oakdene

From the Acas website

There are two types of notice period: statutory and contractual. Statutory notice is the minimum legal notice that can be given. Employers should give the employee:

• one week's notice if the employee has been employed by the employer continuously for one month or more, but for less than two years
• two weeks' notice if the employee has been employed by the employer continuously for two years, and one additional week's notice for each further complete year of continuous employment, up to a maximum of 12 weeks. For example if an employee has worked for 5 years then they are entitled to 5 weeks' notice.

getmore4less

You have a contract with two weeks that is more than statutory so two weeks it is.

I stopped reading part way through it was getting repetitive.


ignore the fluff and disapointments etc detach you won't be working there for much longer.

if you need to say something then just say well I am leaving in two weeks focus on handover and getting a replacement.

get out forget and move on.

on the way out remind them what they owe you and take them to small claims if it does not come in an agreed time frame.

Masomnia

jazzy78987 wrote: »

Hi All,

I have accepted the offer of a new position yesterday. The job is in an industry I'm really interested in and a job that I can see myself progressing in.

To give you a bit of background, my boss is my boyfriend's dad's partner. It was a terrible idea taking the job in the first place with the personal relationship, but a high salary and various benefits were promised, although never delivered. That was the beginning of a whole array of problems I've experienced in the role in the past two years. Being underpaid, not paid on time, 'tax' being taken from other employees who should not be paying it, constantly being put down and having mistakes pinned on me, being belittled, no lunch breaks, working on weekends when it was agreed that I wouldn't need to, to name but a few. It had gotten to a point where I was experiencing extreme anxiety and mild depression due to the role.

I had been nervous about handing in my notice as I know what my employer is like but decided to just be honest and explain that I am looking for a change in career, without making any personal remarks about her as a manager.

This morning, I got to work and told her that I had been offered a new role that I was going to take, and explained that due to the personal side of our relationship and due to wanting a change in career, I would be leaving. She seemed okay with this and said that she understood my reasoning.

She asked me how long I was giving as notice, and I told her that I would be giving two weeks. I have not signed a contract, however she did send me over a contract at the beginning of my employment there, in which the notice period was two weeks, so this is what I chose to go by.

Immediately, she got very defensive and told me that this was extremely disappointing and that I should be giving 4 weeks notice as I am paid monthly. I told her that I'd never heard of this as a rule and have not seen anything online indicating this is how it should work. I told her that in the contract she had given me, it outlined that I should give two weeks notice.

She told me that as I had not signed the contract, she wanted me to contact my new employer and tell them that I will be working a 4 week notice period for her.

I told her that I wouldn't be doing this. She then proceeded to say that she felt she had been really fair with her reaction to me leaving, and that I should know how busy they are, implying that my timing for leaving was inconvenient for the company. She kept telling me how disappointed she was.

At this point, I did end up getting rather upset and told her that I have done a lot for her and have kept quite whilst an array of issues with my employment there went on. I told her that it had gotten to the point where the job had caused me to experience anxiety and depression and to be honest, her reaction was just the straw that broke the camels back really.

I wasn't feeling well today either so told her that I was going home. I know it wasn't right to just leave, but I just couldn't stand to be in there with her, with her talking to me the way she was.

I then received a text from another member of staff saying that she had told her that I'd left.

Does anyone have any advice on how I should proceed? I highly doubted that I would get a reference from her anyway, despite numerous customers telling her how much they appreciate my service and various clients asking me to let them know if I am ever looking for a job. I know I am really good at my job and for some reason, all she ever wants to do is put me down. I think she panicked when I told her I was leaving and was looking for a way to control the situation.

I was thinking of sending her an email saying that, as I had said earlier, I am willing to work the notice period I gave her of two weeks. If this isn't acceptable then I wish the company the best for the future.

If she doesn't choose to accept this notice period, does she need to pay me two weeks regardless?

It is such a strenuous task trying to get her to pay you, and little things like holiday pay and the pay for my notice period I know are going to be near on impossible to get from her!

I'm also due to be paid tomorrow, I have no idea whether this is going to happen or not.

I am just so frustrated!!!! I have done so much for her and she's just oblivious to it all.

As I say, any advice greatly appreciated.

As you don't have two years service the statutory minimum is 1 week's notice for both of you. Even though you didn't sign the contract I think it would be difficult to argue that it doesn't apply. So, I'd go with two weeks. If not, it's 1. Four weeks doesn't come into it, and if she wanted you to work more then she should have put that into the contract!

She has to pay you your notice. I'd suggest you turn up for work, however awkward it might be. Don't give her any reason to dispute that.

xapprenticex

work your notice, so go back in, dont give her a reason to delay paying you. If she sends you home then your back is covered at least.

And dont be sad, you have a massive light at the end of the tunnel now that you have a new job. Youll probably enjoy your old job for 2 weeks because you know you're leaving.

anamenottaken

Does the written document you have say your notice is to be in writing? If it does, have you put it in writing? If it doesn't what proof do you have of giving notice?

ACG

Unless she tells you otherwise in writing (email), turn up for work on monday/tuesday or whenever your next working day is.

Suck it up. You probably have 8 working days left? Someone could sit there calling me every name under the sun, 8 hours a day for 8 days and I would sit there and smile counting down the minutes.

If nothing else, you can hold your head up at family gatherings in the future. Otherwise all you will hear is you left me with no notice blah blah blah. It is quite clear you can not work together, but the end is in sight. I have worked for people I would not P on if they were on fire, and just done what I get paid to.