17yo and F-time job - training query

Spendless

My son was 17 earlier this year. He's in his first year at college doing a BTEC level 3. He left yr11 at school last year after his GCSEs.

He was contacted about a f-time job by one of his college tutors (all his classmates were). He applied, sent off a CV and was contacted about it, saying he was a good candidate, the only issue was he hadn't quite finished his first year at college and the job would be to start before then. It was left that they would consider him for an interview in a few months as they do have vacancies coming up.

My query is, with him not being 18 until next year 18, can he leave college to get a f-time job or does the job have to some approved training with it? It wasn't an apprenticeship.

Leo2020

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school

He will need to be in some kind of education or receive training.

The link does say it can be part-time education. Could he take some form of course that is only a few hours a week along side work.

I do think this rule is stupid as some people are better going into work rather than being forced to do training.

gettingtheresometime

Leo2020 wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school

He will need to be in some kind of education or receive training.

The link does say it can be part-time education. Could he take some form of course that is only a few hours a week along side work.

I do think this rule is stupid as some people are better going into work rather than being forced to do training.

I thought he could work full time - the link you've quoted seems to suggest that .

Leo2020

There is nothing stopping him working full time as long as he is in education or training also. Which is why I suggested doing a part-time course for a few hours a week along side his job.

Spendless

Leo2020 wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school

He will need to be in some kind of education or receive training.

The link does say it can be part-time education. Could he take some form of course that is only a few hours a week along side work.

I do think this rule is stupid as some people are better going into work rather than being forced to do training.

Thank you. Looks like it would have to be 20 hours education of top of 40 hours f-time work, unless the job itself offered training. It'll have to be something asked as and when a vacancy crops up again.

jobbingmusician

Spendless wrote: »

Thank you. Looks like it would have to be 20 hours education of top of 40 hours f-time work, unless the job itself offered training. It'll have to be something asked as and when a vacancy crops up again.

I don't think that's what the link given says, although I appreciate you may have researched more and have additional info.

The link says 'spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training'. A FT job is obviously more than 20 hours a week working, so all he needs is a bit of PT education - amount unspecifed.

Spendless

jobbingmusician wrote: »

I don't think that's what the link given says, although I appreciate you may have researched more and have additional info.

The link says 'spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training'. A FT job is obviously more than 20 hours a week working, so all he needs is a bit of PT education - amount unspecifed.

Ahhh no, I'd read it the wrong way round. :doh: Thank you.

Leo2020

Even a lot if full time courses aren't "full time" if you know what I mean. Course hours seem to have got shorter. Maybe a Level 2 NVQ in something might be an option, I don't think the hours needed at college are that high. If I remember rightly one I looked at was only 4 hours but you did need either a relevant placement or job for a minimum of 2 days a week. Perhaps he could find something related to the job he applied for?

gettingtheresometime

Now I might be wrong but I thought the whole had to stay in school until you're 18 thing was to stop people finishing school at 16 and then going on the dole.....so if you like a way of massaging the unemployment figures.


Is someone is 17 and being offered a fulltime job then why wouldn't that be allowed?

Spendless

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

Now I might be wrong but I thought the whole had to stay in school until you're 18 thing was to stop people finishing school at 16 and then going on the dole.....so if you like a way of massaging the unemployment figures.


Is someone is 17 and being offered a fulltime job then why wouldn't that be allowed?

I might be wrong but I believe the job has to offer approved training eg an apprenticeship.

I don't know if the place that rang DS offers training or not. It's been left that they will ring him next time a vacancy comes up, which they anticipate being in a few months and it would possibly be as he's finished the first year of his course. However he would still be 17 as his birthday isn't until Spring next year

This is what I'm going on.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=5410

Leo2020

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

Now I might be wrong but I thought the whole had to stay in school until you're 18 thing was to stop people finishing school at 16 and then going on the dole.....so if you like a way of massaging the unemployment figures.


Is someone is 17 and being offered a fulltime job then why wouldn't that be allowed?

There has to be some form of training as either part of the role or he could enrol himself on some course separately. But he has to be in some form of training.

You cannot claim job seekers allowance until you are 18.