Minimum wage and Disciplinary

Masomnia

xapprenticex wrote: »

OP are you the one with the disciplinary? You seem awfully involved in someone else's business otherwise, it gives me the impression you are the ''colleague''.

I'm sure 99% of people asking 'on behalf of friends' are the employee that it's about.

davemorton

sangie595 wrote: »

And if you have that kind of death wish, you may as well join a union, become a rep, and at least get the protections and support that entails.

This line interested me. Would you say that being a union rep could be detrimental to ones employment prospects due to the fact they are always having to stick their head above the parapet for other people?
Genuine question, not a dig. I have always wondered this. TIA

sangie595

davemorton wrote: »

This line interested me. Would you say that being a union rep could be detrimental to ones employment prospects due to the fact they are always having to stick their head above the parapet for other people?
Genuine question, not a dig. I have always wondered this. TIA

Sometimes, yes. That is why the law provides some level of protection for them, albeit not a lot. It depends on the employers. Broadly speaking, employers who recognise unions don't see this as anything more than what they need to do - being able to have collective negotiations is a benefit to them. Unions are not always the opposition - sometimes we have common interests with the employer; sometimes our member has been a right *****, and it's in both our interests to try to resolve this the best way possible. But yes, other employers will go for union activists, especially in non-unionised firms. Most people cab, however, work that out for themselves before volunteering to step up. That is one of the reasons why full-time officials are so necessary - employers can't touch us. And there has been more than one occasion when a local rep has said to an employer "Don't look at me, it's the full timer, I have no control over them, you should have talked to me and we could have sorted it" to cover their own back - and we encourage them to if it protects them.

The protection isn't a big deal - if an employer intends to take disciplinary action of any kind against a union rep, they must notify the union first. And, of course, you cannot be dismissed for union membership - but that one is easy to get around if you dismiss them for something else.

ohreally

davemorton wrote: »

Would you say that being a union rep could be detrimental to ones employment prospects due to the fact they are always having to stick their head above the parapet for other people?
Genuine question, not a dig. I have always wondered this. TIA

It could be the kiss of death, it could be a fast track into management.