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Is this a better solution for polymer notes?

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  • Muttleythefrog
    Muttleythefrog Posts: 20,657 Forumite
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    Marisco wrote: »
    As I said, I know sod all about the construction of these notes, but if oil has to be used, then isn't it better to use animal fats than palm oil? The animals are killed anyway for food etc, He might be disappointed, but will he go along with it, so long as animal fat is not used?
    He has to go along with whatever the BoE decides like the rest of us. He's made his views clear. The palm oil idea came from the bank not him... and as you've probably noticed... the bank seems to be a little backward in forward thinking...lol.
    "Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
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    I wonder just how much oil we are talking about compared to the amount we use in our food. Stop the use in food before complaining about the minuscule amount used in each note.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • When I read the title I was hoping the BoE had decided to go back to normal paper money.

    I can't stand the new money. It doesn't lay right when counting it, if it gets a tear in it, the tear spreads very quickly leaving it in two halves, its hard to separate from another, you can't fold it, if you do fold it a bit, the edges are sharp.

    I hate it.
  • we have polymer notes in Aus- never heard any religions complaining here.

    And the notes last really well, esp after a trip in the washing machine.
  • I read some analysis that showed how the trace amounts of animal fat in the polymer notes would mean that every £5 note in existence could be sourced from the fat from a single cow (and it is basically a waste product in the cow so mostly goes to waste anyway).

    I think the impact is therefore so small that people should stop moaning and wasting discussion time on something so inconsequential when there are MUCH bigger issues in the world!!!
  • Within 20 years most transactions will be electronic, leaving coins for the very small stuff; even the future of coins seems doubtful when you can just scan your thumb or eye. The future of finance is changing in ways we can barely imagine; I didn't see the demise of the cheque or bank guarantee card.

    These 2 are still alive and thriving. Personally I still get through about a dozen cheques a year under circumstances where no other payment method works.

    I don't care a hoot about what the new notes are made of, but I think the new fiver feels horrid and cheap and doesn't fold properly.
  • maggiann
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    They are complaining about animal fats in the new five pound notes but I don't see them complaining about leather seats on buses....or even their lovely, flashy cars!
  • Animal by-products are used for lots of things in manufacturing.Have these people who object to Tallow being used in the new bank notes never handled a candle? What do they think candles are made of? Yes it is Tallow, and there is no outcry about them.
  • I can partially understand objections from anyone that has no use/contact with any animal products at all, (such as leather, wool, natural fertilizer, dairy etc.) but all of these are used in everyday life. A lot of the time the use is not thought about, such as sitting on a public transport seat that may contain leather or wool. In these type of cases the product is used as a tool, exactly the same as a bank note.

    I find it a total waste of time and money to even consider changing the current approach taken for the new notes
  • tain
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    I read some analysis that showed how the trace amounts of animal fat in the polymer notes would mean that every £5 note in existence could be sourced from the fat from a single cow (and it is basically a waste product in the cow so mostly goes to waste anyway).

    I think the impact is therefore so small that people should stop moaning and wasting discussion time on something so inconsequential when there are MUCH bigger issues in the world!!!

    This.

    It's a ridiculously small amount of tallow being used. So small, it could come from an animal that died of natural causes.

    https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/a-very-precise-calculation-of-exactly-how-many-cows-are-being-murdered-for-the-new-fivers

    Anyone with a problem simply wants to have a problem. No real substance to any argument.
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