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DMP Mutual Support Thread - Part 12

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  • Twins
    Twins Posts: 346 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    A debt can only be recorded once on your credit reference agency files (CRA). If Empire Stores sold it on to Arrow then the Empire entry would be removed and the Arrow entry would appear.

    If it was defaulted the information should be recorded against the debt, regardless of who now owns/manages it, e.g. one of our debts was defaulted by the original creditor in August 2015 but not passed to a debt collection agency (DCA) until October 2016. The only entry on our credit file is under the DCA name but the default still shows as August 2015.

    Does this make sense?

    Jan, I just got missed phone calls from PRA Group they left a voicemail saying it was in relation to the "complaint" I made. I assume this was the letter I sent regarding the incorrect recording of the default date. PRA group haven't defaulted me on either of my accounts and have marked them as AR since taking on the DMP. I don't know if the original creditors Barclaycard and Egg put the default on as I can't find them on my credit file...only PRA Group and this might sound silly but I don't know if they sold the debt to PRA Group of if PRA is managing on their behalf?

    I am assuming PRA are going to say that they can't default me as I've always been making the arranged payment till date. I don't want to talk to them as I feel they'll try and confuse me and make out they are right. What should I do and how do I find out if I was ever defaulted by Barclaycard and Egg. I've tried searching on Noodle and Clearscore but nothing...

    Thank you!
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,504 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    Debby,

    If you want to sell your ipad quickly, try one of the recycling sites, i cant name them for fear of been accused of advertising for them.

    You know the one i mean, the little black and white bird who steals anything, preceded by the word "thank you for the m _ s _ c" ?
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • I previously asked on here about Hoist/Robinson Way (Barclaycard) debt. Are these now owners of the debt or working on behalf of? Thanks!
    DMP Started June 2016
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,504 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    I previously asked on here about Hoist/Robinson Way (Barclaycard) debt. Are these now owners of the debt or working on behalf of? Thanks!

    Hoist are a massive debt purchasing organisation.

    Robinson way do not purchase debts.

    Its likely your account was bought by Hoist, and Robinson way are managing it on their behalf.

    Do you have any letters from them ?

    if so they should confirm what i have said.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • The letter from Barclaycard says 'the above account was assigned and transferred by Barclaycard to Hoist' .... 'the new owners of the above account are now Hoist'. So assume that means Hoist have bought it?
    DMP Started June 2016
  • It also states 'Hoist has appointed Robinson Way as their servicing agent to manage your account on their behalf'.
    DMP Started June 2016
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,504 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    The letter from Barclaycard says 'the above account was assigned and transferred by Barclaycard to Hoist' .... 'the new owners of the above account are now Hoist'. So assume that means Hoist have bought it?
    It also states 'Hoist has appointed Robinson Way as their servicing agent to manage your account on their behalf'.

    There you go then !!!
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Thanks Sourcrates just wanted to be 100% sure.

    I keep hearing people talk (not on this site) about the three letter process when a debt gets bought. Does anyone know what this is all about? Thanks!
    DMP Started June 2016
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,504 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    edited 12 May 2017 at 1:44PM
    Thanks Sourcrates just wanted to be 100% sure.

    I keep hearing people talk (not on this site) about the three letter process when a debt gets bought. Does anyone know what this is all about? Thanks!

    Forget it, its absolute rubbish, already tried, and thrown out of court.

    It all revolves around the original contract been with the original creditor, and the new creditor been able to prove the debt is valid, all this foremen of the land nonsense does not stand up to scrutiny.

    There are no easy get out clauses, the creditor either proves the debt is valid by providing evidence, or they dont, when a debt is sold, all rights and privileges are transferred to the new owner, as allowed under the consumer credit act, all legal and above board.......

    The 3 letter process is rubbish.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • debby
    debby Posts: 75 Forumite
    bsclp118 wrote: »
    Why not try put the ipad on gumtree debby? You don't have to pay fees and generally you get a buyer willing to pick it up from you and get cash straight away.

    Just an idea as obviously a PDL is the last resort. And you would be surprised what you can sell on there - maybe have a look around and see what you might be able to do without. Kitchen gadgets, furniture, books, CDs, comics (I made £50 selling a load of old comics my partner had stored away that he'd forgot about!).

    As everyone else has said - don't even think about paying your non-priority debts until you have yourself sorted out.

    Thanks hadn't thought of gumtree. We don't have much left to sell in the house really. We didn't have much to start with lol. But we continue to go through the house looking.
    Our debts have already been paid for the month. We are up to date with them all. We haven't defaulted on any...that's we have no money left for ourselves. X
    DEBBY :j
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