Colleague Made Permanent

Pa_Ja

I work FullTime/Permanent in an office. A colleague of mine has been made permanent after 4 or 5 years of working under temporary contracts.
Someone else within our department has an equal amount of service under the same conditions, similar level of responsibility but is still a temp. He has a meeting at the end of the week with management, what would be the best questions to ask why they’ve not been made permanent?

TELLIT01

I would have thought that simply asking that direct question would be the best way forward. It could be a case that the company is limited on how many people they are able to make permanent at this time, and that his time may come.

[Deleted User]

I would ask not in an upset "they have gone permanent so why have I not been offered?" way, but in a positive "I really like working here and it is a great opportunity to go permanent if this was possible as I am very interested".

getmore4less

if the contracts are direct and renewed and no other terms change then then permanent has no real benefit as they have the same employment protections anyway.

TELLIT01

getmore4less wrote: »

if the contracts are direct and renewed and no other terms change then then permanent has no real benefit as they have the same employment protections anyway.

Do staff on fixed term contracts automatically have the same entitlement to pension, annual increments, bonuses etc.

KiKi

Pa_Ja wrote: »

I work FullTime/Permanent in an office. A colleague of mine has been made permanent after 4 or 5 years of working under temporary contracts.
Someone else within our department has an equal amount of service under the same conditions, similar level of responsibility but is still a temp. He has a meeting at the end of the week with management, what would be the best questions to ask why they’ve not been made permanent?

When you say 'temp', do you mean directly employed by the organisation on a 'fixed term' contract which is renewed each year (or so), or do you mean working for the company through an agency?

KiKi

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Do staff on fixed term contracts automatically have the same entitlement to pension, annual increments, bonuses etc.

Yes, unless it can be justified by a very good business reason..

xapprenticex

2 years+ aside, The difference is, at the end of the term the person can be sent on their way, if its permanent then the only way is redundancy. if someone has to go it will be the person on the rolling contract.

sangie595

xapprenticex wrote: »

2 years+ aside, The difference is, at the end of the term the person can be sent on their way, if its permanent then the only way is redundancy. if someone has to go it will be the person on the rolling contract.

No, it isn't. Redundancy rights are based on continuous employment. The termination of a fixed term contract for no other reason than it is fixed term is unlawful. People on "rolling contracts" must be treated in the same way as anyone else with the same amount of service. Including for redundancy. In the eyes of the law, there is no difference.

xapprenticex

sangie595 wrote: »

No, it isn't. Redundancy rights are based on continuous employment. The termination of a fixed term contract for no other reason than it is fixed term is unlawful. People on "rolling contracts" must be treated in the same way as anyone else with the same amount of service. Including for redundancy. In the eyes of the law, there is no difference.

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