Lorry driver: 'I feel like a prisoner in my own lorry'

Marktheshark

If Jobs and employment were the key to life success places like India would be the places to live.
It is bunkum, rights fought and died for ard the key to good life.
Sticking together, standing together are what is missing these days.

TrickyTree83

AFF8879 wrote: »

And I think the problem with your perspective is you see an isolated part of the country, I felt exactly the same as you (as I said I voted remain, I'm a young Londoner with a well paid job and friends from all over he world). The problem is, when you listen to people's experiences from outside the well-to-bubbles, it is clear that quality of life has significantly declined in many areas of the country - now, I'm not for one minute suggesting this driven by the EU or immigration - I think austerity policies have had more of an impact, not that these are not required often either - but the more that people do as you have done - stick your fingers in your ears and go la la la - the more disenchantment is going to spread. And the big danger of this is that it will push people to support causes / groups that are genuinely prejudiced/racist etc out of sheer frustration.

Definitely agree about the frustration angle, I don't believe for a second that there's that many people who would support Gert Wilders PVV manifesto, it was awful. Disagree with austerity being the cause of the disenchantment. It seems to me to be the nanny state. Big government interfering in people's lives to an unacceptable level and dismantling people's way of life from liberal ivory towers. Remember that it wasn't 17m unemployed people who voted to leave.

GreatApe

AFF8879 wrote: »

The problem is, when you listen to people's experiences from outside the well-to-bubbles, it is clear that quality of life has significantly declined in many areas of the country

I dont buy this as true

I am guess there is more truth to the idea that desperate people now have a voice and can be visible whereas they didn't 30 years ago. And desperation in the UK is often unealted to economic performance its mostly to do with addiction and peoples own friends/families making them miserable and desperate