smoker at work

leslieknope

even if there aren't any health issues, i find it extremely rude to blow any kind of smoke or vapour around people. that should be outside, not at your desk. it's extremely unprofessional to do during working time.

agrinnall

xapprenticex wrote: »

Bear in mind, half the people on the forum will be smokers...

Making random nonsensical statements like this just make you appear an idiot.

Public Health England data in 2016 found 16.9% of adults in England were smokers.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/20/number-of-uk-smokers-falls-to-lowest-level

And I would suspect that as members of the MSE forum are generally quite keen on saving money an even smaller percentage of them will be sending it up in smoke.

xapprenticex

General_Grant wrote: »

Where do you get that statistic?

Google, on that site, have a look :money:

agrinnall wrote: »

.. some b.s. ..

Sorry who are you?

hyubh

Muscle750 wrote: »

I work in very close proximity to someone who is quite a heavy smoker. They come in early and basically spend the first 2 hours outside smoking, Now they have started "vapping" whilst they are actually working. they have the thing in their hand almost all the time and whilst i have made the odd comment to them its done nothing and im now thinking of taking it further.

I bet the filthy b'stardio has a civil service pension as well!!!

Seriously though, my sympathies.

Muscle750

End of the day if smokers want to kill themselves thats their issue yet i dont want to have it wether harmless or not inflicted on me

paddyrg

leslieknope wrote: »

even if there aren't any health issues, i find it extremely rude to blow any kind of smoke or vapour around people. that should be outside, not at your desk. it's extremely unprofessional to do during working time.

I know it's a contentious issue and TBH I agree to a large extent, but we have to be careful that we aren't just doing this for misplaced reasons.

Things I find offensive/offputting at work - eating hot/smelly food, perfume, farting, poor personal hygiene, nail clippers, gossip, trainers, tattoos, shorts, people who can't use a photocopier, list goes on...

So it's slightly tongue in check, but all of those bear similar health risks and irritation levels, so why single out exactly one of them to persecute someone who specifically isn't smoking any more just because we're triggered to from years of conditioning?

As I mentioned I largely agree, but need to be clear on my reasoning and acknowledge it's not particularly rational

getmore4less

Employer needs a workplace policy for this.

plenty of places have decided to operate no vap policies, workplaces and places open to the public.

daytona0

Only 10 years ago you could smoke in the workplace...

How times have changed :rotfl:

Bear in mind as well that this "heavy smoker" is probably the product of the government's efforts to promote smoking a number of years ago when the health issues were unclear and the tax revenue was large.

In a nutshell, they have probably been screwed over and now they are doing their best to deal with an addictive drug through substitution. It is a bit of a shame that the reason for substitution is likely the ban, but other than that I say well done to this "heavy smoker"

If a workplace policy existed (plan of action for you: speak to management) then I'm sure that said colleague would adapt their addiction around that.

Otherwise, I say each to their own. Only 10 years ago you would have been inhaling his ciggy smoke all day

moneyistooshorttomention

If they're spending much of the first 2 hours of the day outside smoking - then they aren't working during that time........:cool:

Does the employer know they're only getting about 75% productivity from them?

boliston

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

If they're spending much of the first 2 hours of the day outside smoking - then they aren't working during that time........:cool:

Does the employer know they're only getting about 75% productivity from them?

Time worked does not exactly equal productivity. Quite often you get staff who take an age to do the simplest thing, and even then they get it wrong.