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  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 31,876 Forumite
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    Still there on mine
    How contracting out affects your pension income

    Like most people, you were contracted out of part of the State Pension.
    More about ........... link to COPE
    Never has stated when or for how long though.
  • beezkneez
    beezkneez Posts: 129 Forumite
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    xylophone wrote: »
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/state-pension-fact-sheets/contracting-out-and-why-we-may-have-included-a-contracted-out-pension-equivalent-cope-amount-when-you-used-the-online-service

    If there is no COPE then it would appear that you have never been contracted out?

    Your "starting amount " would then be the higher of (new rules) 29/35 x £155.65 (£128.96) or (old rules) 29/30 x £119.30) + any SERPS/S2P earned between 1987 and 2016.


    I thought I had contracted out for a while because I only pay once a month into pension but I have 2 actual pension plans?. I seem
    to remember contracting back in when I started being self employed?

    My partner took out same plan at the same time as me but was self
    Employed then but he only has one pension fund? Where I have 2?!

    Maybe I'm being dim?
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 44,433 Forumite
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    I have definitely been contracted out fir over ten years.
    You mentioned a DB pension in an earlier post - you have been in this scheme since 2006?

    http://www.scottishwidows.co.uk/Extranet/Literature/Doc/FP0587



    For service between 6 April 2002 and 5 April 2016, the
    COPE is the amount of S2P given up.
    In this period, low
    and moderate earners were entitled to a higher accrual
    rate than would have been available under SERPS,
    but this was not allowed for in DB rebates and only to
    a limited extent in DC rebates. So many people will have
    built up more than their basic state pension entitlement
    while contracted-out in that period, and that is allowed
    for in the calculation.
  • beezkneez
    beezkneez Posts: 129 Forumite
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    I have just checked and I did contract out on 2000 so sure if the online quotation is correct!
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 44,433 Forumite
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    I have just checked and I did contract out on 2000 so sure if the online quotation is correct!


    https://www.gov.uk/contracted-out/new-state-pension


    Your starting amount for the new State Pension may include a deduction if you were contracted out in certain:

    earnings-related pension schemes at work (for example a final salary or career average pension) before 6 April 2016

    workplace, personal or stakeholder pensions before 6 April 2012


    Ring and check?
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