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Aviva Endownment matures may 2017

Hi Guyz
i have an Aviva endowment i think it was an old L&G one, it is covered by the mortgage promise, But it does say we may pay an final bonus have they been doing that this year or late last year, or is it just the bonus that are shown on the latest statements, that it will pay out ?
Thanks for any input
Al

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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,179 Forumite
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    But it does say we may pay an final bonus have they been doing that this year or late last year, or is it just the bonus that are shown on the latest statements, that it will pay out ?
    Final bonuses accrue as the go along. They dont suddenly appear at the end. That info is available on some statements and most IFA systems that integrate with Aviva. You can phone them to ask as well.
    If you check your current value/position and check the surrender value, you may well find that the surrender value is higher. That is because of the final bonus accrued to date.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • bigal993
    bigal993 Posts: 26 Forumite
    Hi dunstonh
    Many thanks for your reply,
    I was hoping for a suprise at the end, but if there added as they go along, maybe not.
    Im patiently wating for May to come along, mortgage is all paid off as we overpaid, so anything is a bonus.
    Thanks
    Al
  • penwise
    penwise Posts: 398 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Please let us know what happens - I have a similar policy with a few years to go.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,334 Forumite
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    bigal993 wrote: »
    Hi Guyz
    i have an Aviva endowment i think it was an old L&G one, it is covered by the mortgage promise, But it does say we may pay an final bonus have they been doing that this year or late last year, or is it just the bonus that are shown on the latest statements, that it will pay out ?
    Thanks for any input
    Al
    Not L&G which still exists.

    Commercial Union
    Norwich Union
    General Accident
    Provident Mutual?
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • We have a NU endowment for £56 pm. It matures in late March.
    We have had a preliminary estimate and it is not far short of what it was supposed to pay out (£44k)!!!


    THis is despite having been paid compensation earlier. ANd despite many letters advising it wouldn't meet expectations. And despite the previous estimate from 3 years ago being £24k!!


    THe mortgage promise makes up £10k.


    IF it does payout this much it will beat the original amount they set. I do not know how they have come to this amount but I will be absolutely over the moon if it pays out.
    I don't believe it!
  • We have a NU endowment for £56 pm. It matures in late March.
    We have had a preliminary estimate and it is not far short of what it was supposed to pay out (£44k)!!!


    THis is despite having been paid compensation earlier. ANd despite many letters advising it wouldn't meet expectations. And despite the previous estimate from 3 years ago being £24k!!


    THe mortgage promise makes up £10k.


    IF it does payout this much it will beat the original amount they set. I do not know how they have come to this amount but I will be absolutely over the moon if it pays out.

    The mortgage promise is the maximum that might be payable. It will not take payout above the target amount of the policy
    http://www.aviva.co.uk/retirement/endowment/frequently-asked-questions.html
    See the 7th question: "What is the mortgage endowment promise?" where they have a worked example.

    Sorry
    Imma
  • dunstonh
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    edited 12 March 2017 at 12:25PM
    We have a NU endowment for £56 pm. It matures in late March.
    We have had a preliminary estimate and it is not far short of what it was supposed to pay out (£44k)!!!


    THis is despite having been paid compensation earlier. ANd despite many letters advising it wouldn't meet expectations. And despite the previous estimate from 3 years ago being £24k!!


    THe mortgage promise makes up £10k.


    IF it does payout this much it will beat the original amount they set. I do not know how they have come to this amount but I will be absolutely over the moon if it pays out.

    A lot of those that fell short and then got redress did so not long after the dot.com period crash. The markets then went on to recover strongly before crashing again in the credit crunch. And then growing strongly.

    Endowments always did well when the years went through periods of volatility. It was the long periods with little or no negative periods followed by a big negative that caused the problem (ie. 90s).

    All those premiums paid around 2001-2005 and then 2009 to 2016 have been the reasons for the turnaround.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • The mortgage promise is the maximum that might be payable. It will not take payout above the target amount of the policy



    I realised that. The promise makes up part of the estimate along with estimated maturity value - which brings the total estimate to be just UNDER the original estimate. But if you then add in the compo we received we have then BEATEN the amount it was originally taken out for.
    I don't believe it!
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