Sickness At Work

-taff

If theyhave trained first aiders, they can send someone home if they feel they are unwell enough.

Ultimately, sickness is not treated like a pat on the back, there there anymore, it's g to work or face the consequences. Your daughter is facing the consequences. Has she really only had two days off to face this response, or has she had several unrelated illness days off?

VintageBelle

They might use the Bradford index system and go on a points system in terms of her absences. My sister has had similar issues with her employee by which the reason is technically irrelevant as they have accrued too many 'points' of absence.

Undervalued

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Wrong I'm afraid. I've seen people dragging themselves into work when they are clearly extremely unwell, but they are scared to take more time off because of the way the attendance system works. They may be unable to do their job effectively, but simply being on the premises means they avoid action being initiated against them. Utterly stupid way to run the place but it's a fact nonetheless. That's in the public sector too.

I don't entirely agree.

Obviously there will be extremes such as you describe. However, in a workplace with little or no "sickness management policy" employees often have wildly differing ideas of when they are too ill to come to work. Some will drag themselves in when they clearly shouldn't and other will stay away with the mildest of problems.

An employer can't really make medical judgements, other than by getting a professional occupational health report in more serious cases.

This is all quite separate to an employee who is clearly malingering, such as the chap off work with a bad back caught digging a pond in his garden! That can be dealt with as misconduct (even gross misconduct) even without a managed sickness policy.

Mrs_Ryan

Art_Deco wrote: »

I work in a hospital and im afraid they dont send you home for being ill, sickness is done on a point system ,

You can be sent home- I was sent home a few times when I worked in a hospital. Usually if you have D&V.

Art_Deco

Mrs_Ryan wrote: »

You can be sent home- I was sent home a few times when I worked in a hospital. Usually if you have D&V.

Our management/modern matrons/ nurse in charge cannot send anyone home regardless of illness, they can recommend it but it is up to the individual if they want to go home ill , and depending on the Bradford point system, they may not, if you have worked less then 5 hours of a shift you are marked as sick for the whole shift , during a recent noro virus outbreak, we were advised by infection control that if we wore masks and followed infection control policies we could carry on working as we were that short staffed ,ive worked in hospitals for over 30 years and rules are getting worse.

Torry_Quine

Art_Deco wrote: »

Our management/modern matrons/ nurse in charge cannot send anyone home regardless of illness, they can recommend it but it is up to the individual if they want to go home ill , and depending on the Bradford point system, they may not, if you have worked less then 5 hours of a shift you are marked as sick for the whole shift , during a recent noro virus outbreak, we were advised by infection control that if we wore masks and followed infection control policies we could carry on working as we were that short staffed ,ive worked in hospitals for over 30 years and rules are getting worse.

That's awful!! Anyone working with people such as nurses or carers shouldn't work until at least 48 hours after they have been clear of active symptoms. It's awful to think infection control could be putting people at risk and no nurse or carer I know would work if they had norovirus.

My husband is a support worker and recently had a D&V virus, he came home from work when he started being ill and stayed off until clear for the requisite 48 hours.

Art_Deco

Torry_Quine wrote: »

That's awful!! Anyone working with people such as nurses or carers shouldn't work until at least 48 hours after they have been clear of active symptoms. It's awful to think infection control could be putting people at risk and no nurse or carer I know would work if they had norovirus.

My husband is a support worker and recently had a D&V virus, he came home from work when he started being ill and stayed off until clear for the requisite 48 hours.

But the thing is until its officially diagnosed you dont know its norovirus, yes if you have d&v you should stay off for 48 hours after symptons clear but what im saying is where i work, policy is they wont send you home ,you have to say you are ill and ask to go home they cant refuse you but you are marked as sick and the bradford points will start adding up.which is what the OP was asking , regarding duty of care of employers.

Torry_Quine

Art_Deco wrote: »

But the thing is until its officially diagnosed you dont know its norovirus, yes if you have d&v you should stay off for 48 hours after symptons clear but what im saying is where i work, policy is they wont send you home ,you have to say you are ill and ask to go home they cant refuse you but you are marked as sick and the bradford points will start adding up.which is what the OP was asking , regarding duty of care of employers.

Are you really saying that nurses would stay at work if they were having D&V! If so I want to know where so as to avoid going there. Obviously if not ill yourself of course you continue working, that's part of the job.