Wage deduction

Guest101

mikehobbs wrote: »

As for the overtime it is paid at a higher rate, and I know it's been taken off as it isn't itemised on my pay slip, people have said to me in past that he can't take overtime off my pay as that's extra work done and the absenteeism deduction should be from the standard wage amount, and overtime paid as it's extra, I welcome all the info cheers

But it's not extra, you're contracted to work a certain number of hours, if you haven't then you don't earn overtime.

FBaby

this isn't first time he made an example of me

What do you mean by that?

In all likelihood, your 'boss' is fed up with you for some reason and this was the last straw from his perspective. Flexible arrangements are usually removed when bosses feel that people are abusing them. If I were you, instead of disputing whether he had a right to do so (taking the issue of the overtime aside, he probably did), I would be very careful about not making things worse for yourself if indeed, he has an issue with your dedication to the job.

Just realised you mention your 'newborn'. How new? Did you take parental leave? Did this happen shortly after that leave? Could your boss questioned what you said about your wife? Of course he couldn't challenge you and say you were lying, but then he can do things such as not allowing such days to be taken as holidays.

preciousillusions

sounds to me like in your mind you have done however many days 'normal time' + whatever hours 'over-time' which to you means say hours beyond a certain time each day for example 6pm which is usually paid at a higher rate, when you've actually just been paid an amount of hours at your normal rate as they have simply gone 'he's worked x hours when he should have worked y so gets x hours at the normal rate', yes? I can see their reasoning tbh, in that any overtime should be used as a way of making up hours you are contracted for.

Your boss might be an !!!! but in all likelihood he has the rulebook to back him up, so might be worth just letting it be.

Art_Deco

Its all a bit confusing, working somewhere for 15 years with no contract, means your boss can basically make rules up as he goes along, and a work colleague who acts as a boss , hes either a manager , supervisor or the same as you!, Where I work you only get overtime rate if you are full time, work over 150 hours a month, part time staff never get it, if you are off unpaid, you wouldnt get it as you havent worked the 150 hours ,so the extra shift you worked would have been counted as a normal working day meaning if you were off 3 days it would be counted as 2. Can you not get parental leave these days sharing leave with your wife?

RuthnJasper

I wonder if this is a cash-in-hand type of job. Having no contract, someone who is "basically a boss", a frequently-absent "main boss". It does sound a bit worrying, especially if the OP has a young baby and two disabled other children to support.


I think you need to see a contract ASAP mikehobbs.

jobbingmusician

If you kept your employer informed, it was not absenteeism.

You are entitled to parental leave whatever your (lack of) contract says. See https://www.gov.uk/time-off-for-dependants

Note that
- it is clear that this time off does not have to be paid. (But it is normal, in my experience, for employees to be allowed to take the leave as part of their AL.) If this is a first occurrence, though, 3 days (to be taken from annual leave) seems reasonable to me!

- Normally, EMERGENCY time off should only be a day - it's to enable you to deal with the emergency and make cover arrangements.

I am no expert, but your employer is DEFINITELY not allowed to deduct from your pay to pay someone else's overtime! See https://www.gov.uk/understanding-your-pay/deductions-from-your-pay

I don't understand the employer's logic, in any case. He hasn't had to pay 'extra' overtime, he's had to pay overtime to replace an employee who he either isn't paying at all, or who is taking their AL. No WAY is it an extra cost to the employer, even if overtime IS paid at an enhanced rate. Employees have emergencies sometimes which have to be covered!

marliepanda

jobbingmusician wrote: »

I am no expert, but your employer is DEFINITELY not allowed to deduct from your pay to pay someone else's overtime! See https://www.gov.uk/understanding-your-pay/deductions-from-your-pay

I don't understand the employer's logic, in any case. He hasn't had to pay 'extra' overtime, he's had to pay overtime to replace an employee who he either isn't paying at all, or who is taking their AL. No WAY is it an extra cost to the employer, even if overtime IS paid at an enhanced rate. Employees have emergencies sometimes which have to be covered!

At what point did anyone say that is what he did?!