Notice period/loss of pay/sick leave...help!

lincroft1710

You get paid on 15 Feb, so you should get 2 weeks pay minimum, or they may pay you up to the 17th, your last day of service. So at the most you will only be short 2/3 days money.

You now only have 9 days left to work there, just carry on as normal and ignore any spitefulness

t0rt0ise

Just swan about at work making coffee and doing little work. If the boss won't speak to you he's not going to tell you off. Just mess about and look forward to leaving.

Takeaway_Addict

allylouloux wrote: »

Hello,

I have a bit of an odd situation. I am mid-way through my months notice period, and don't start my new job until 20th Feb.

My current employer is making day to day life quite difficult...I literally feel like a traitor in the office; the owner of the company who has just returned from holiday has barely acknowledged me nor the fact that I am leaving (this wouldn't be unusual in a large company, but there are 6 of us in the office!). Any other employee leaving has been treated with respect, and been offered congratulations, had a leaving do planned etc. But I literally feel as though they hate me, and are treating me like I have deeply offended or hurt them by leaving. They have changed the business structure in such a way that I have no chance for progression, have had new responsibilities handed over to me with no pay review and I have overall felt incredibly underappreciated for at least a year. All of which means I have been wanting to move on for a while. The attitudes and general demeanour of the management towards me for the last 2 weeks and likely for the next has felt rather unprofessional. That's only part of the issue.

We get paid kind of odd, when you start they make you start at the end of the month and pay you mid-month, 2 weeks you have worked and 2 weeks in advance. That means that on 15th Feb I will only be paid for 2 weeks work. Also, bearing in mind that the 2 weeks I was paid at the beginning of my contract I was on a lower salary. We also do not get any bonuses we may have accumulated, so despite earning a £400 bonus in January, I will not receive this. Again this makes little sense, 'bonuses shall not be paid from the month you leave'...this bonus was earned in January, I am leaving in February, but because it falls into the February payroll I won't get it.

I have spoken to my boss to try and get compromise on my notice period so I could start my new job earlier and not miss out on pay. But that was denied. I knew the pay policy beforehand except for the change in policy in regards to the bonus pay, but now that I am in the situation, and timings mean that I may not receive any pay at all from my new job until the end of March I am panicking a little. I had hoped to change jobs after my husband sold his business (so we would be more financially settled to have me lose pay), but I was head hunted for this new job and couldn't turn it down!

Hypothetically, if I were to self certify myself to be off sick and earn a bit of cash with my mother in law to put aside and tide me over until I get paid from my new job rather than accepting a hand out from her, would this be wrong/illegal etc.? I just don't know what to do. I handed in my notice to stop feeling unappreciated, and to have a job that fulfils me both financially and personally; but I don't think I can face another 2 weeks being treated like crap and not being paid for it (I do understand I was technically paid back in 2014...I honestly think it's a ridiculous way to pay, but that's besides the point)

Any advice would be appreciated.

oh dear.........

theoretica

You do seem a little confused about the pay - you have been being paid 2 weeks after you worked them and two weeks before. So the last two weeks of January you weren't paid for in 2014 - you were paid for them in the middle of January.

Changing from being paid in advance to being paid in arrears may not be pleasant, but it is purely a budgetting issue and doesn't mean there will be days you are working unpaid.

Savvy_Sue

allylouloux wrote: »

We also do not get any bonuses we may have accumulated, so despite earning a £400 bonus in January, I will not receive this. Again this makes little sense, 'bonuses shall not be paid from the month you leave'...this bonus was earned in January, I am leaving in February, but because it falls into the February payroll I won't get it.

I think I'd understand this as 'we won't pay any bonuses once you've handed in your notice'.

You can ask your new employer if they would be willing to pay you an advance, which would then be deducted from your first salary. If you are starting work with them in mid Feb, that would not be unreasonable. Beyond that, it's a budget question.

Forgot to say, have you checked you have been paid for all the leave accrued and not taken? I always include what I'm expecting in a resignation letter ...

SandC

They are all quite normal terms. Mine are the same.... 2 weeks in arrears, 2 in advance. People tend to work their notice until the end of the month because of this. I guess it's too late to ask new job if you can start later and extend your notice? Sounds not by the way things are going there.

Silver linings.... you'll be gone soon, you have someone who will help you out financially, your pay at end March will have that extra week or so pay in it that you've accrued also. Before you know it you will be back on an even keel.

Good luck with the new job and forget them and their attitude.

TBagpuss

It's very common to be paid 2 weeks in arrears and 2 in advance. The dificulty you have is due to the change in jobs and in pay methods. Your wemployer isn't dong naything wrong or unprofessional and, as you say, you knew about the system and had the benefit of getting paid an extra 2 weeks at the outset.

If it is going to cause you problems (for instance, if it will mean that direct debtis such as your mortgage are likely to bounce) then speak to your bank now to seee if you can arrange an overdraft to ensure that you don't incur penalties for an unauthrosed overdraft, and then plan to tighten your belt for the next couple of weeks so you can get back on track.

In terms of how you have been treatred, it's uncomfortable but it isn't necessarily unprofessional.

None of us can know whyyou are being treated differently from other employees who have left - it could be things which are nothing to do with you personally, such as them having been with the company much longer, or leaving due to retuirement rather than moving to a new job.

It may also be that there are personal isues here - the previous leavers may have had better relationsips on a personal level with their colleagues or boss, which may have made a diference to how they were treated. And that may have to do with them, or with you, or a mix of both.

It sounds as though your boss is being a litle childish in his attitude to you but you only have a week left - be professional, and remind yourself that you are getting out of there and moving on to better things.