Advice required for Apex & Wescot

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Hi all

I have the following debts and wondered if the best plan of action would be to ask for a F&F settlement:

Wescot-acting on behalf of HSBC £6130.05
Apex-acting on behalf of Capital One £2532

My questions to you guys is do I contact HSBC and Capital One with the offer? What do you think would be reasonable offers to make?

many, many thanks for taking time to read my post. xx

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  • FireWyrm
    FireWyrm Posts: 6,557 Forumite
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    Generally speaking, there is no requirement for lenders to even entertain the idea of a F&F. These amounts are relatively speaking, very small. If you can show some sort of extenuating circumstance, then they are much more likely to take you seriously. F&F cannot be considered a sort of 'get out of jail free' card and the banks are becoming increasingly concerned that this is what is happening. On the other hand, they have a general moral duty to consider all circumstances around the issue. What were you thinking would be a comfortable amount that you can raise? I would start low and then work up, much like old-style dickering. If you only have a pot of say $6K total to distribute with no demonstrable way to get that same amount together in future, then, £3K each would be reasonable.

    If you do manage to secure a deal, then ensure that you get it in writing, that it contains the words 'full and final' since this could be demonstrated later as being the fundamentals of a contract if there should be any 'misunderstanding'. Sometimes, banks sell on part settled debts and you could potentially find yourself facing the same argument again with a less reasonable collector.
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  • Phasma1
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    Thank you so much for your detailed reply.

    I had been reading other posts over the last few days about these offers and thought it may give me another option that I didn't think was available.
  • dieselv2
    dieselv2 Posts: 164 Forumite
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    There are official templates to send if there's no option on their website. Either way just cover yourself by making sure you get it written in the post before paying :)
    Debt As Of 19/3/2021: £16,973 | Current Debt: £9,322 | 54.9% Repaid
  • FireWyrm
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    Templates are good, but they see dozens a day. Make yours stand out. You dont need any special training to write the letter, just common sense and remember that Full and Final is a legal term that they will understand and must abide by. You can hang them with it in a court if necessary.
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  • Phasma1
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    I've received a letter from Apex today saying they would consider a "discounted settlement figure" do you think £1000 is a decent offer?
  • dieselv2
    dieselv2 Posts: 164 Forumite
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    That's over half off, maybe close to 60% off original price. I think it's a good offer myself. You could push for a lower amount.
    Debt As Of 19/3/2021: £16,973 | Current Debt: £9,322 | 54.9% Repaid
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