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Aquamania

molerat wrote: »

Do you know something that was not in the story published ?

I know nothing more about that particular case (and suspect no one will find much else either as it would have been subject to reporting restrictions, I feel sure)

My comments are therefore based upon the article as published, and my limited knowledge of the judiciary.

molerat

Ah, so he didn't admit to a crime which he (and I think any reasonable person) believed was not committed.

And from my personal experiences above it seems strange that one day I was a criminal and the next she was maybe she was both sides of that day, who knows, but in today's politically correct point scoring criminal justice system anything is possible.

Aquamania

molerat wrote: »

Ah, so he didn't admit to a crime which he (and I think any reasonable person) believed was not committed.
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:huh:

Do you know something that was not in the story published ?

...The Cambridgeshire teenager, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was found guilty of indecent assault by a court,...

Btw, I'm not sure when this incident was supposed to have occurred.,
The offence of indecent assault has not existed since the introduction of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, so my comments may not be appropriate to that case.
I was explaining how offenders are treated this century.

Norman_Castle

Aquamania wrote: »

I feel sure the case would never have come to this but for the continuing lies & deceit of the boy involved.

Restorative justice (prior to sentencing) can never be available to those who deny their crime.

The article was about promoting restorative justice which presumably wasn't available for this case at this time. The chief constable used this as an example of where restorative justice would have been much more suitable. There is no mention of the boy lying or being deceitful.

“We have done him and the girl and her mum a disservice. That is the sort of thing I do not want us to spend our time on. Restorative justice offers our staff a means of dealing with that action within an hour.
“We would not spend 30-40 hours on it and we wouldn’t go around alienating families as I expect we did in this case.”


Its highly likely the boy admitted he had done this and as such the only option at the time was prosecution.
The point of the article is that if restorative justice had been available it would have been preferred by everyone but the police and courts didn't have the option to use it.

Aquamania

Norman_Castle wrote: »

... There is no mention of the boy lying or being deceitful....

True, but it is a logical deduction from what is mentioned in the article

Norman_Castle wrote: »

...Its highly likely the boy admitted he had done this ...

May I ask what draws you to that conclusion as it is contrary to what is stated in the article?

Norman_Castle

Aquamania wrote: »

True, but it is a logical deduction from what is mentioned in the article



May I ask what draws you to that conclusion as it is contrary to what is stated in the article?

Its not a logical deduction, its an assumption.

The chief constable was using this as an example of where restorative justice would have been appropriate and preferred. Would he had done that if the boy was denying responsibility?