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Additional tax relief calculation

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Extra tax relief needs reclaimed from HMRC. Could someone do a worked example of how this is calculated using the following figures-

Salary gross :@47000
Total pension contribution : @7000
Annual allowance : 11000
Salary over 430000 taxed at 40%

Thanks

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  • HappyHarry
    HappyHarry Posts: 1,804 Forumite
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    edited 26 January 2017 at 3:11PM
    penwise wrote: »
    Extra tax relief needs reclaimed from HMRC. Could someone do a worked example of how this is calculated using the following figures-

    Salary gross :@47000
    Total pension contribution : @7000
    Annual allowance : 11000
    Salary over 430000 taxed at 40%

    Thanks

    Assuming:
    1. You are using 2016/17 tax allowances and
    2. You are making a gross personal pension contribution of £7,000 from your take home pay:

    You should be liable for tax as follows:
    £0 - £11,000 taxed @ 0%
    £11,000 - £47,000 taxed at 20% (The pension contribution increases your basic rate tax band)
    So total tax due is £7,200

    You will probably pay:
    £0 - £11,000 taxed @ 0%
    £11,000 - £43,000 taxed @ 20%
    £43,000 - £47,000 taxed @ 40%
    So total tax paid will probably be £8,000

    You may be able to claim back £800
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  • penwise
    penwise Posts: 398 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Thanks for doing that and getting back so quickly.
  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    edited 26 January 2017 at 6:26PM
    The other way to think of it is:

    Effectively by putting £7k gross into a pension you only need to have paid tax on the first £40k of income not the whole £47k. And £11k of that £40k was covered by your personal allowance, so the total tax payable for the entire year was only £29k x 20% = £5800.

    However you will generally have paid via your employer PAYE, a total of £8k tax on the £47k gross salary (£11k @ 0%, £32k @ 20%, £4k@ 40% = £8k) like Harry says.

    But when you contributed to the pension scheme, to get the desired £7k gross into the scheme you probably paid only £5600 cash into it out of your net pay - and the pension provider grossed it up by 100/80 to give you automatic basic rate tax relief of £1400 and leaving £7000 total in the pension account

    So really you need to pay £5800 total tax for the year as a whole, but you probably paid £8000 out on PAYE (£2200 too much) and only got £1400 back inside the pension, so what HMRC still owe you is £2200-1400 = £800, which is what Happy Harry thinks you are owed too.

    Note, this is assuming the way you got the £7000 gross into the pension was by contributing £5600 from net pay and having the pension provider turn it into £7000 with BR relief at time of contribution (or shortly thereafter).

    If instead you got the £7000 into the pension wrapper by the less-common route of having your company contribute it gross so you never had to pay any tax on that £7000 in the first place, then you will have only paid £5800 for the year as a whole, and as that's the correct amount of tax for someone with £40000 of taxable income, there is nothing extra to pay and nothing to refund either.
  • penwise
    penwise Posts: 398 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Thanks for that - it always really helps my understanding to see the calculations.
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