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I am about to TUPE to another employer and it is going to affect me financially
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Hi,
My colleagues and I work for a security firm on a site where they have lost the contract to a new firm. To keep our jobs on the site, we are about to go through the TUPE process. However, this is going to affect us quite drastically financially, here's why:
The OLD FIRM paid us on the 10TH OF EACH MONTH, paying us the dates from 1st to 31st of the previous month. For example, on the 10th Feb we will be getting paid from 1st to 31st Jan.
The NEW FIRM will be paying us from 21ST to 20TH/21ST of each month, on the 1ST of each month. For example, they would pay us on the 1st Feb, for 21st Dec to 21st Jan.
Her's where the issue arises:
The contract with the OLD FIRM ends on 13th FEB. Then the NEW FIRM takes over. The NEW FIRM will pay us for the dates 14th to 20th Feb, on 1st March (ONE WEEK). The OLD FIRM will then pay us from 1st Feb to 13th Feb on 10th March (TWO WEEKS PAY). So in March, we will be getting paid THREE WEEKS in TOTAL for the month of FEBRUARY.
The NEW FIRM will then pay from 21st Feb to 21st March (FOUR WEEKS) on 1st April. And then the 21st to 20th/21st going forward.
So it goes as follows: Payment for FEB = 3 WEEKS PAY, MARCH = 4 WEEKS, APRIL = 4 WEEKS. Because of the NEW FIRMS different payroll and payment date, we are LOSING ONE WEEKS PAY and, apparently, will not see it until we leave the company. Which is useless to all of us. It's almost as if our collective weeks wages are being held hostage until we leave, in the meantime we are left to struggle financially. The possibility of a "LOAN" from the NEW FIRM has been suggested, but this looks to cause more issues down the line.
Does anybody have any experience, advice, or know the best people to speak to regarding this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
My colleagues and I work for a security firm on a site where they have lost the contract to a new firm. To keep our jobs on the site, we are about to go through the TUPE process. However, this is going to affect us quite drastically financially, here's why:
The OLD FIRM paid us on the 10TH OF EACH MONTH, paying us the dates from 1st to 31st of the previous month. For example, on the 10th Feb we will be getting paid from 1st to 31st Jan.
The NEW FIRM will be paying us from 21ST to 20TH/21ST of each month, on the 1ST of each month. For example, they would pay us on the 1st Feb, for 21st Dec to 21st Jan.
Her's where the issue arises:
The contract with the OLD FIRM ends on 13th FEB. Then the NEW FIRM takes over. The NEW FIRM will pay us for the dates 14th to 20th Feb, on 1st March (ONE WEEK). The OLD FIRM will then pay us from 1st Feb to 13th Feb on 10th March (TWO WEEKS PAY). So in March, we will be getting paid THREE WEEKS in TOTAL for the month of FEBRUARY.
The NEW FIRM will then pay from 21st Feb to 21st March (FOUR WEEKS) on 1st April. And then the 21st to 20th/21st going forward.
So it goes as follows: Payment for FEB = 3 WEEKS PAY, MARCH = 4 WEEKS, APRIL = 4 WEEKS. Because of the NEW FIRMS different payroll and payment date, we are LOSING ONE WEEKS PAY and, apparently, will not see it until we leave the company. Which is useless to all of us. It's almost as if our collective weeks wages are being held hostage until we leave, in the meantime we are left to struggle financially. The possibility of a "LOAN" from the NEW FIRM has been suggested, but this looks to cause more issues down the line.
Does anybody have any experience, advice, or know the best people to speak to regarding this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It's a bit confusing, but my reading is that the new employer will pay a week in arrears, nothing unusual about that and it's unlikely that there's anything more you can do about it.0
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what is changing...
A. pay period 1st to 31st paid 10th following month(10 days delay)
B. pay period 21st to 20th paid 1st following month(8-12days delay)
no real difference.
All that has happened is the delay period has moved back from the 1st-10th to 20th-1st.
There is no additional weeks pay as a hostage.
The week(10days) has just moved back and you are getting paid earlier than you used to.
people may have cash flow issues if they have aligned their outgoing so their pay but that is never a smart thing to do.
The sensible thing to do is not rant about losing a weeks pay as that is not happening.
A salary advance to help those with cash flow issues transition could work.
personally I would be focusing on why the company lost the contract, if the new one has undercut by a lot they will be looking to make savings and as the most significant cost is salaries.0 -
I think the OP is saying that there will be a period when they must survive on less until payday.
The total pay wont change.0 -
Your effectively working up a week in lieu, as long as that is paid up at such times as when you leave, they lose the contract or they pay you of you haven't anything to worry about.Norn Iron Club member No 3530
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I think the OP is saying that there will be a period when they must survive on less until payday.
The total pay wont change.
but that is not the case even if that is what they and you think.
They get about 3 weeks pay to cover about 3 weeks(give or take a few days because it is monthly)
10 Jan paid for the month worked Dec
10 Feb paid for the month worked Jan
1 march paid for about 1 week worked in Feb
10 march paid for about 2 week working in Feb
next full pay in about 3 weeks time 1st April.0 -
getmore4less wrote: »but that is not the case even if that is what they and you think.
They get about 3 weeks pay to cover about 3 weeks(give or take a few days because it is monthly)
10 Jan paid for the month worked Dec
10 Feb paid for the month worked Jan
1 march paid for about 2 week worked in Feb
10 march paid for about 1 week working in Feb
next full pay in about 3 weeks time 1st April.
To clarify, I wasn't saying that, I was summarising the OPs complaint.0
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