My boss decided he doesn't like me after 6.5 years and kicked me off site

illu2

Hi all,
I'll try to be as concise as possible.
I work as an IT Engineer at Company A. They loan me out to other companies in London. I have been loaned to Company B for 6.5 years.
I'm not perfect and last year I had a few issues with some admin being behind and slight lateness, but the important thing is that these issues were resolved (or so I thought).
For the last 3 months of the year, everything was perfect, but just before the Christmas dinner, my boss shouted at me in the office for a few minutes in front of 6 of my colleagues, when I was doing nothing wrong, I was doing my job, IT problem solving.
He then sent an email to his boss basically saying that he could not work with me anymore and made up a few reasons, most of them being lies/character defaming.
I got kicked off site with no advance warning last week.
There was then a conference call (that I was accidentally invited to) and my boss was laughing a few times as he told the other engineers I was off the team.

My main concern is this:- At Company B I was earning about £500 a month on top of my salary as a standby payment. I have got used to this money after 6.5 years and rely on it.
I still have a job with Company A, but I am now out of pocket and may be sent somewhere else where I don't get that standby money. Since I was booted out through no fault of my own, what rights/entitlement do I have that the company keeps my wages+standby the same?
I have basically been given a £6,000 per year pay cut overnight.

I will also be putting in a complaint about the boss.

Any advice appreciated,

Thanks

getmore4less

How many people does company A have working in Company B.

Any complaint about company B must be through company A

Kick up a fuss with B and they kick everyone out, A could get rid of you then you have a 100% pay cut.

illu2

Thanks for the reply. Company A has quite a few people working at Company B in all different IT areas, but I am not entirely sure on numbers. My team has 10 engineers in it.
My complaint is with my boss at company B who is actually employed by company A, my company.
I have a meeting today about what my next options are.
What I am more concerned about is the financial implications though. If you are booted off a site through no fault of your own and then are at a significant financial loss, what are my options and rights?
Thanks

stator

By 'stand by' do you mean being 'on call' out of working hours?

Your situation is complex so you should try the ACAS Helpline for advice.

Gavin83

Just to clear this up when you say they loan you out do you mean you work for an outsourcing company and company B pays company A on a contract basis to support it's IT?

If this is the case then you aren't employed by company B and therefore have no employment rights with them. I also can't see company A doing much with a complaint. Company B is essentially a customer and it's unusual for anyone to want to upset a customer, especially one as established as this. You do have employment rights with company A, although they could potentially take you down a disciplinary route if they feel it necessary.

Is this standby payment mentioned in your contract at all? I'd imagine it's only paid when you are actually on standby and even while staying in a company it could be removed at any time. It's effectively a bonus payment.

Anyway I feel you are basically out of luck on this one. Company B basically hold all the cards here and can, within reason request anything they want. If they don't want you on the site they can ask for this. The customer is always right as they say.

getmore4less

This is purely a company A matter if the boss is in fact just another company A contractor.

Does the company A employee(your boss) has the authority to decide who works on this contract?

payments are a contractual issues with you and company A

get your contract out and have a good read.

Gavin83

illu2 wrote: »

My complaint is with my boss at company B who is actually employed by company A, my company.

Ah, that makes a difference. You need to raise this with you main company then, company B aren't really involved at all. Saying that in my experience a company will generally side with the more senior employee unless you are particularly well valued but it's worth pushing.

So do you work for an outsourcing company or is it some sort of shared resourcing situation?

TELLIT01

As you are discovering, it's an extremely bad idea to assume that any additional payment over and above base wage is always going to be there. I do realise that many people do so, and then find themselves in the same difficulties that you are in.
You have no comeback against company B. They have decided they don't want you there so you have been returned to your employer. If you can prove defamation you may have a case to take up against company B, but that would be costly and probably fruitless.

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TELLIT01 wrote: »

As you are discovering, it's an extremely bad idea to assume that any additional payment over and above base wage is always going to be there. I do realise that many people do so, and then find themselves in the same difficulties that you are in.
You have no comeback against company B. They have decided they don't want you there so you have been returned to your employer. If you can prove defamation you may have a case to take up against company B, but that would be costly and probably fruitless.

It appears that company B have nothing to do with this, the bos is a company A employee who has decided this.

Who knows if company B people have had any input.

Not relevant but IME with this sort of arrangement company B need their own people in there to avoid getting done by A.

TBagpuss

Is the 'Boss' who threw you out employued by Company A or Company B?

If they are employed by Company B then (subject to anything in the contraxct between A &B, and provided that the reason is not discrimninatory) they are probably free to tell Co. A at any time that they don't want a specifc individual working on their contract.

If your Boss is employed by Company A then you may have grounds to raise a grievance follwoing your internal grievance policy (look at your company hand book for the process)

Also, check your employment contract - if you are no longer requires to be on standby then you will no longer be entitled to the stnadby money, so I think you would only be able to ask for that if there is something in your contract which entitles you to a notice period if you are to be moved to a different location.

If the person who threw you of the team is employd by Company B then although you are unlikelyto have grounds for a grievance, as they are a client not your employer or another employee, it may still be worth while letting your actual line-manager at Co. A know the details, including the false allegations and comments made to the other team members as they may wish to investigate further with Compnay B.

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