Should I be getting my full holiday entitlement as I do not work on Bank Holidays?

crazysunshine54

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

How long have you been there?

Are other people similarly affected?

Are you in a union?

If you haven't been there 2 years, I'd recommend raising this carefully, as you don't have any employment protection. Having said that, if the employer is short-changing everyone, then a group grievance might be the best way to go. Better yet if you can get a union doing it for you.

I've been with the company for more than 4 years, but I've never thought about questing my holiday entitlement until now.

I'm not part of any union.

I do know of one other person in the company who is also sure that they're not getting their full entitlement and brought it up at the same time as me and was given an identical response.

I want to be sure that I'm not miscalculating something before taking it any further... but something just doesn't add up.

Savvy_Sue

agrinnall wrote: »

Forget about what days you work and how many hours on each, in your situation holiday allowance needs to be calculated in hours. You work 32 hours per week, is it correct that a full working week would be 40 hours? If so then the statutory allowance is 5.6 weeks * 40 hours per week * 0.8 (your full time equivalent).

5.6 * 40 * 0.8 = 179.2 hours (or 179 hours 12 minutes)

As I explained in post #8 51.2 of those hours have been allocated by your employer to the bank holidays, leaving 128 hours for you to take across the year.

I believe your employer's calculation and methodology is correct.

I think it's worth reading this.

crazysunshine54 wrote: »

I want to be sure that I'm not miscalculating something before taking it any further... but something just doesn't add up.

That is always very wise! the hours I spent trying to explain to colleagues who only worked a four day week what we were doing to their bank holidays ... some of them were CONVINCED that their bank holiday entitlement should not be pro-rata!

crazysunshine54

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

I think it's worth reading this.

That is always very wise! the hours I spent trying to explain to colleagues who only worked a four day week what we were doing to their bank holidays ... some of them were CONVINCED that their bank holiday entitlement should not be pro-rata!

I still don't quite understand...

'As I explained in post #8 51.2 of those hours have been allocated by your employer to the bank holidays, leaving 128 hours for you to take across the year.'

How is it possible that they've been allocated if I don't work on Bank Holidays? Sorry if I'm just being a bit slow!

getmore4less

agrinnall wrote: »

Forget about what days you work and how many hours on each, in your situation holiday allowance needs to be calculated in hours. You work 32 hours per week, is it correct that a full working week would be 40 hours? If so then the statutory allowance is 5.6 weeks * 40 hours per week * 0.8 (your full time equivalent).

5.6 * 40 * 0.8 = 179.2 hours (or 179 hours 12 minutes)

As I explained in post #8 51.2 of those hours have been allocated by your employer to the bank holidays, leaving 128 hours for you to take across the year.

I believe your employer's calculation and methodology is correct.

the calculation may be correct but the OP is saying they are not getting paid for (some/all) the BH deducted hours.

crazysunshine54

getmore4less wrote: »

the calculation may be correct but the OP is saying they are not getting paid for (some/all) the BH deducted hours.

That's correct. At the moment, I get 128 hours annual holiday and I'm not getting paid for any of the deducted hours (I should be getting 179.2 hours in total). Also, I don't work Mondays and I'm not paid for Bank Holidays/hours in lieu at the moment.

Tigsteroonie

If you normally work Tuesday to Friday, presumably you are not working on Good Friday (so there is one of your bank holidays). Boxing Day in 2017 is on a Tuesday (so there is a second).

Not sure what's happened to the rest of them, though.

crazysunshine54

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

If you normally work Tuesday to Friday, presumably you are not working on Good Friday (so there is one of your bank holidays). Boxing Day in 2017 is on a Tuesday (so there is a second).

Not sure what's happened to the rest of them, though.

Incredibly, Mondays and Fridays are usually the days I do not work...

theoretica

agrinnall wrote: »

Forget about what days you work and how many hours on each, in your situation holiday allowance needs to be calculated in hours. You work 32 hours per week, is it correct that a full working week would be 40 hours? If so then the statutory allowance is 5.6 weeks * 40 hours per week * 0.8 (your full time equivalent).

5.6 * 40 * 0.8 = 179.2 hours (or 179 hours 12 minutes)

As I explained in post #8 51.2 of those hours have been allocated by your employer to the bank holidays, leaving 128 hours for you to take across the year.

I believe your employer's calculation and methodology is correct.

I don't agree - the employer could allocate 51.2 hours to bank holidays, but has not done so, as the OP is still working 32 hours in most if not all weeks which have bank holidays in.

OP, you say you have varied hours within the wook. Could you ask to be scheduled (on paper) to work on some bank holidays to make up the 51.2 hours so you do actually work less those weeks?

paddedjohn

OP, on the weeks with a bank holiday in make sure you only work 3 days, this will ensure you get everything you are entitled to.

Savvy_Sue

Sorry, I didn't properly read the whole of agrinnal's post, so missed the bit about the employer having allocated some hours to bank holidays already.

OP, talk to the colleague who feels the same way as you, quietly see if you can find others, and present a united front. Also if there is an HR dept, talk to them and see if they agree with the calculation.