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  • cms-help
    cms-help Posts: 187 Forumite
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    LOL. A lazy TA is one that does their job but no more?

    Remind me how much they get paid?

    I wish I had one that did their job and no more. I'd be quite happy with that. This one sits and watches me input to the chn rather than putting their books out or doing any of the simple things that need doing around the classroom, thinks assembly time is paid time off rather than having 3 or 4 kids for much needed intervention or reading.

    I have no idea how much my TA is paid but I do know her contract is for 15 hours a week. If I'm paid for 3 hours work a day then I do 3 hours work. I don't sit and have an hour off (e.g. playtime + assembly time).
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,938 Forumite
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    A doctor or a dentist (or an accountant or a solicitor) might only see you a couple of times a year, maybe fewer. A teacher will be dealing with dozens of people every hour and having to document what they achieve with them and how they've improved them.

    Their pay and conditions do not necessarily compensate them for the workload. That's why about half of qualified teachers leave the profession. Lecturers are no better off.

    The initial workload of someone entering the profession will be high and not conducive to lots of family time. I left the NHS and entered the education sector and I don't regret it but don't assume it's an easy transition.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
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  • Shakin_Steve
    Shakin_Steve Posts: 2,814 Forumite
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    edited 30 December 2016 at 1:58PM
    Chapuys wrote: »
    The red tape with teachers, especially primary school teachers only increases. People who says it depends on schools, it really isn't. Over the last few years it has increased very quickly. Look at this National Union of Teachers pie chart on workload increases.

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    My weekday!
    Prep before morning lessons 8-8.50am
    Work with children 8.50am to 12.15pm
    Break 12:15pm to 12.45pm
    Prep for PM 12.45pm-1.15pm
    Work with children 1.15pm to 3:15pm
    Wait for parents who decide not to pick their children up on time 3.15pm to 3.45pm
    3.15/3.45pm-5.30pm Start marking 4 sets of 31 books used that day - up to 124 books - providing feedback, next steps, challenge work and marking previous feedback, checking the previous next steps and marking the previous challenge work.
    5.30pm to 8pm kicked out of school, go home have dinner, 'relax' etc.
    8pm to 11pm Complete any marking not completed. Create interventions for children who need extra support the next day. Create activities for upcoming lessons / interactive notebooks for presentation.
    11pm sleep.

    Pretty much my life as a teacher Monday to Friday and I lesson plan 12pm to 6pm Sundays. This doesn't include any other roles I may have in school like the School Council, History lead, Computing lead, EVC or Deputy Child Protection Officer which I have without extra pay or time.

    I would never recommend anyone becomes a (primary) teacher unless you just want to be a rubbish teacher not working hard marking or assessing or just use generic things like off the shelf lesson plans without tailoring them to the needs of your class which will lead to you not meeting your ridiculously high targets and don't progress up the pay spine
    My wife is a headteacher in a large, inner city primary. I certainly recognise that routine. Not the exact working practices, but the long hours both at school and at home. Keep up the good work, dedicated teachers are the key to our children's future.
    I came into this world with nothing and I've got most of it left.
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