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As a cyclist I use cycle lanes where I think it will be saver to do so. If not, I use the road.
As a pedestrian and as a cyclist, I hate "shared pedestrian and cyclist paths". They're bonkers. Cyclists think they have some priority because they travel quicker.
As a driver I overtake cyclists with extreme care.0 -
Manxman_in_exile wrote: »Cyclists think they have some priority because they travel quicker.
As a driver I overtake cyclists with extreme care.
Most of my cycling is on shared paths and in my experience most cyclists are careful and most pedestrians friendly toward them. The thoughtless cyclists tend to be matched in number by miserable, resentful pedestrians.0 -
Norman_Castle wrote: »As a cyclist I pass pedestrians with extreme care.
Most of my cycling is on shared paths and in my experience most cyclists are careful and most pedestrians friendly toward them. The thoughtless cyclists tend to be matched in number by miserable, resentful pedestrians.
Hard to argue shared use paths arent rubbish. I regularly cycle and part of a route goes a couple of miles through a park. As a cyclist its frustrating that pedestrians just arent very observant or cant be observant quick enough and as a pedestrian (and i actively look for cyclists because i know how busy the route is) your always getting caught out by cyclists. You know your peeing them off they know theyre peeing you off. The other thing (myself included in this) pedestrians just dont use signage. All the way down that 2 mile stretch has two lanes painted on the pavement and regular signs saying dual use. Both users have to compromise
Most people get on ok about it but i dont think anyone would say its the best solution. Not sure what is the best solution but cant imagine it would be that expensive/difficult just to split the path in 2 and have a small hedge or something in between. Make it difficult for the 2 to cross paths. Not much need for the cyclist to go anywhere else as its mainly used as cut through as part of a much bigger cycle route.
Cant complain too much though our council has been doing a pretty good job of improving things for cyclist round here. Saying that our council is one of the highest for road fatalities/accidents in the UK. So not that difficult to improve.0 -
We have a couple of cycle paths on the old track bed route of closed railways. They're well signed, good condition tarmac surface, but bloody dangerous because of large numbers of lycra louts doing 20-30 mph two or three abreast who don't give a toss about other cyclists or pedestrians. I've cycled down them a few times with my family, but never again - the lycra louts don't slow down, don't go into single file, meaning other cyclists have to pull in to let them past. I've ended up face first into shrubs because of it and my son was clipped by one and ended up over the handle bar. Some cyclists are their own worst enemy.0
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Some cyclists are their own worst enemy.
You could say the same thing about any group.
While most Santas are well behaved I've seen some turn up for work smoking or even drunk. Some Santas are their own worst enemy.
While most footballers just want to play the game, some spit and dive and swear at the referee. Some even get sent off as a result! Some footballers are their own worst enemy.
While most sellers of traditional English sausages sell a decent product, some try to pass of German sausage as English. Some sausage vendors are their own Wurst enemy.0 -
It doesn't show in the photo but it's a reasonable slope, the wavy effect is to step it slightly so it's not a straight slope and the railings are to help people walking up and down the slope, I see them being used regularly.
John
How do you find the wavy surface is to cycle on? I wouldn't want to form a judgement without trying it myself, but imagine it would be quite uncomfortable. For anyone in a wheelchair or walking with a pushchair I'd expect it would be more difficult than a normally graded slope as you'd have short sections with a steeper gradient to negotiate.0 -
Mids_Costcutter wrote: »How do you find the wavy surface is to cycle on? I wouldn't want to form a judgement without trying it myself, but imagine it would be quite uncomfortable. For anyone in a wheelchair or walking with a pushchair I'd expect it would be more difficult than a normally graded slope as you'd have short sections with a steeper gradient to negotiate.
It's smooth enough you don't really notice it on the way down and works fin on the way up. Seems to work well with buggies as it's like steps, you give a little push up the short steeper bit, ease off, little push etc. rather than just a constant push. Unlike a lot of other routes, they do genuinely seem to have put a lot of thought into it although it's not been well publicised.
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Cycle lane on the road = full of dirt and debris which is swept in there after all these cars keep piling into each other; inevitably short and rarely goes where you need it
Cycle lane with segregation = rare outside London
Cycle lane / shared footpath = pedestrians walk in the cycle bit; pedestrians have annoying stuff in tow e.g. kids, prams, dogs on lead all of which can cause accident and means cycling very slowly; your cycle is constantly interrupted by side roads which you have to stop for for safety purposes; often little more than a line painted on the pavement so surface is uneven and harsh to ride on; not gritted in winter
As I pay VED for my car and council tax for road repairs and income tax for road building I'll use the road for cycling thanks as I can make proper progress on a better surface
Heres one in Edinburgh
Yes,the cyclist is on the road as its full of parked cars.....0
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