Parking Ticket Aire Street Leeds- Appeal

LeedsGirl94

Hi guys,
I've been reading this forum thoroughly for the past few days now as I'm writing an appeal for my friend who received a ticket from PE on Aire Street Leeds a few days ago.
She had parked for two hours but left a few minutes after her ticket expired, however she did leave within the grace period as provided for by the BPA Code. I had told her to send the blue letter in the 'Newbies' thread for the PE appeal whilst I prepare a full POPLA appeal. However I have a q; my appeal covers the following points
1) The ANPR system is unreliable and inaccurate and non-compliant with grace periods
2) Unclear, inadequate and non-compliant signage
3) No standing or authority to pursue charges, nor form contracts with drivers
4) The operator has not shown that the individual it is pursuing is liable for the charge

The NTK is not clear about whether the charge is for overstaying or having the incorrect ticket or for overstaying. I have just reviewed pictures of the signs which say that 'all day time tickets expire at 6pm, a separate ticket must be bought for after.' Can I still appeal even though she parked until just after 6? I think the terms are misleading because when you purchase a ticket it prints the time you should return by and it said a time after 6 which it should not have done if she needed to buy another ticket at 6pm.

Many thanks in advance for your help, I can post my fully prepared POPLA Appeal here if it would help

pappa_golf

grace periods apply , unless there is clear signage stating othwise

Umkomaas

PE NtKs are ambiguous on details. It's usually shown as 'overstayed or purchased insufficient time', nothing to get over concerned with.

Just follow the standard procedure - blue text initial appeal from the NEWBIES sticky (post #1), which is likely to be rejected, then POPLA appeal as you are just starting on. Use the standard text POPLA appeal points from the sticky (post #3) as drafted.

Did the NtK have a final paragraph 'If after 29 days..........' or is there a gap at the foot of the page as if a paragraph has been omitted?

LeedsGirl94

Hi Pappa golf, thank you for your prompt response. I am aware that grace periods apply but my main question was in regards to the machine providing tickets valid until after 6pm yet the terms state that a new ticket must be purchased after that time.
I.e. My friend left within the grace period provided by her ticket however if the ticket expired at 6pm NOT the time on the ticket then she left after the grace period

LeedsGirl94

Hi Umkomaas,
There is the standard after 29days paragraph
Best Wishes

Umkomaas

LeedsGirl94 wrote: »

Hi Umkomaas,
There is the standard after 29days paragraph
Best Wishes

OK, just carry on as I suggest. I wouldn't get too wound up about the detail of the ticket machine. A full-on POPLA appeal normally sees PE drop the ball - they have easier fish to fry. Of late they are discontinuing claims when faced with a lengthy and comprehensive POPLA submission.

LeedsGirl94

Okay thanks for your help!
Best Wishes

LeedsGirl94

Hi everyone,
Thanks for your help with this, I found out yesterday that my friends POPLA appeal was successful. Couldn't have done it without this forum!

Umkomaas

LeedsGirl94 wrote: »

Hi everyone,
Thanks for your help with this, I found out yesterday that my friends POPLA appeal was successful. Couldn't have done it without this forum!

Any chance of a copy of the adjudication so we know what appeal points are working with POPLA. Helps us help others going along the same path. Please place it in the POPLA Decisions sticky. Thanks.

Good result, by the way.

LeedsGirl94

Umkomaas wrote: »

Any chance of a copy of the adjudication so we know what appeal points are working with POPLA. Helps us help others going along the same path. Please place it in the POPLA Decisions sticky. Thanks.

Good result, by the way.

My friend hasn't sent me the full adjudication but I will try get a hold of it and post it in the POPLA sticky

beamerguy

LeedsGirl94 wrote: »

My friend hasn't sent me the full adjudication but I will try get a hold of it and post it in the POPLA sticky

Great News

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