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Pay when seconded to a higher graded role, without having the required qualifications
HurdyGurdy
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This is such a complex tale, that I will cut it down as much as possible.
Three and a half years ago, four colleagues and I were moved from our roles as team administrators, into a newly created team, and much more responsible roles. Our admin roles were a grade 5. The new roles were eventually (after a year) graded and set as grade 7. We were under the impression that the new role was our permanent roles (as we had received emails stating "happy to confirm your new role as xxx" - from the admin manager, not HR) but it was only after a year, that we were told that actually, we were seconded to those roles.
After a year in that role, I then moved sideways to another team but still in the same department. The role was a grade 8, and I was offered, and accepted the role on that basis.
Too complicated to go into the reasons why, but I was then doing the grade 8 role, which required a degree (which I don't have) but on a grade 7 pay (this was a secondment. I was sent a contract from HR but refused to sign it as it was at a grade 7 and the role I was doing was a grade 8). I was doing exactly the same job as those who do have degrees and were on grade 8.
For six months I worked towards a qualification which was accepted as a sufficient to meet the requirements of the grade 8 spec, on the agreement (which I have in writing) that once I passed, I would be put up to grade 8, I passed the qualification, and was congratulated on doing so by the head of service, in September (so she is aware of it, and has said that she has passed it into HR's hands).
I have been told that when on secondment, you should be paid the rate that the job attracts from day one of the secondment. But I don't know if that is the case if the employee doesn't have the qualification needed for a grade 8 role.
I don't know if this would be a universal thing, or if each organisation would have their own criteria for how they deal with secondments, but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or advice on this.
I still haven't been put onto the grade 8, so if I am going to speak to the head of service about that then I might as well ask about being paid at the higher grade since I went into the role, if my colleague is correct about being on the higher grade from the beginning, at the same time.
What do you think? (Sorry, even this ended up being long - if I'd gone into the whys and wherefores I would have been typing all night!)
Three and a half years ago, four colleagues and I were moved from our roles as team administrators, into a newly created team, and much more responsible roles. Our admin roles were a grade 5. The new roles were eventually (after a year) graded and set as grade 7. We were under the impression that the new role was our permanent roles (as we had received emails stating "happy to confirm your new role as xxx" - from the admin manager, not HR) but it was only after a year, that we were told that actually, we were seconded to those roles.
After a year in that role, I then moved sideways to another team but still in the same department. The role was a grade 8, and I was offered, and accepted the role on that basis.
Too complicated to go into the reasons why, but I was then doing the grade 8 role, which required a degree (which I don't have) but on a grade 7 pay (this was a secondment. I was sent a contract from HR but refused to sign it as it was at a grade 7 and the role I was doing was a grade 8). I was doing exactly the same job as those who do have degrees and were on grade 8.
For six months I worked towards a qualification which was accepted as a sufficient to meet the requirements of the grade 8 spec, on the agreement (which I have in writing) that once I passed, I would be put up to grade 8, I passed the qualification, and was congratulated on doing so by the head of service, in September (so she is aware of it, and has said that she has passed it into HR's hands).
I have been told that when on secondment, you should be paid the rate that the job attracts from day one of the secondment. But I don't know if that is the case if the employee doesn't have the qualification needed for a grade 8 role.
I don't know if this would be a universal thing, or if each organisation would have their own criteria for how they deal with secondments, but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or advice on this.
I still haven't been put onto the grade 8, so if I am going to speak to the head of service about that then I might as well ask about being paid at the higher grade since I went into the role, if my colleague is correct about being on the higher grade from the beginning, at the same time.
What do you think? (Sorry, even this ended up being long - if I'd gone into the whys and wherefores I would have been typing all night!)
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>> I have been told that when on secondment, you should be paid the rate that the job attracts from day one of the secondment.
Every organisation has its own rules. So maybe, maybe not. Ask your union?0 -
It is entirely a contractual matter, there are no legal rights to rely on.0
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