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Huge amounts of debt, advice on DMP needed

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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,555 Ambassador
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    Keezing wrote: »
    I googled some of the phrasing and found someone else who receive it in 2014 http://lawyer-consultation.net/help-again

    Can I assume that Barclays will in fact default me on the date in the letter, or is this just a threat?

    They have to follow a certain legal procedure in order to register a default on your credit file.

    A default notice is stage one of this process, and if you don't remedy the breach stated in the notice, by the due date, then stage two is a default registered on your credit file.

    No reason to suspect they won't follow through with it at this point.
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  • Keezing
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    Thanks sourcrates.

    My fear was that they would treat me differently to others who have had experience with them due to the larger size of my debt.

    A default after 1 missed payment must be highly unusual. I suspect a CCJ and a Charging Order will quickly follow.
  • January2015
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    edited 17 January 2017 at 1:56PM
    £30k is a lot to you - it's not a huge debt to Barclays.

    It's very unlikely CCJs/Charging orders will follow quickly. These things take ages and BC will have sold the debt before that will happen.

    BC have to send default notices when you miss payments. There are standard procedures they have to follow and sending such a notice is the first step.

    Seriously, one missed payment and you are a long, long way from CCJ/Charging orders. Don't panic.
    DFW Nerd No. 1484 LBM 07/01/15 Debt was £95k :eek: Now debt free and happy :j
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,555 Ambassador
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    Keezing wrote: »
    Thanks sourcrates.

    My fear was that they would treat me differently to others who have had experience with them due to the larger size of my debt.

    A default after 1 missed payment must be highly unusual. I suspect a CCJ and a Charging Order will quickly follow.

    It's probebly because you've asked for a DMP that they have defaulted you so quickly, I assume this debt is unsecured ?

    It's just that 30k seems a lot for unsecured borrowing.
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  • January2015
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    sourcrates wrote: »
    It's probebly because you've asked for a DMP that they have defaulted you so quickly, I assume this debt is unsecured ?

    It's just that 30k seems a lot for unsecured borrowing.

    We've got almost £35k unsecured loan with Helifax. Add the OD and CC and we owe Helifax far more than this.

    2 years down the DMP line and we are still paying Helifax directly for the loan only. They haven't passed this to a DCA, but they have stopped all interest and charges and have registered defaults on all our accounts with them. They have passed the smaller debts for OD and CC to DCAs already though.

    I know it's not Barclays, but even so, we have no threats of CCJs or Charging Orders...and yes we own our property with more than sufficient equity to cover all our debts.

    Edit: Our £35k is in the form of 2 loans rather than a single loan but I don't think it makes a difference
    DFW Nerd No. 1484 LBM 07/01/15 Debt was £95k :eek: Now debt free and happy :j
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,555 Ambassador
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    We've got almost £35k unsecured loan with Helifax. Add the OD and CC and we owe Helifax far more than this.

    I guess I'm showing my age a bit, as 25k used to be the limit of unsecured borrowing (for a loan) under normal circumstances, with the majority of banks anyway.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Keezing
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    Yes it's unsecured. It was originally much larger too.

    I've banked with Barclays for 20+ years and over the past 4 years have received a large income.

    They offer special deals to existing "premier" (not the paid for premier accounts) customers who they have such extensive history with. The loan was offered online as "pre-approved based on my banking history" and was deposited into my account instantly after just a couple of clicks. They didn't even credit check. Incredible isn't it?

    Thanks again to both of you for your input. It is invaluable to me.
  • January2015
    January2015 Posts: 2,369 Forumite
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    Keezing wrote: »
    Yes it's unsecured. It was originally much larger too.

    I've banked with Barclays for 20+ years and over the past 4 years have received a large income.

    They offer special deals to existing "premier" (not the paid for premier accounts) customers who they have such extensive history with. The loan was offered online as "pre-approved based on my banking history" and was deposited into my account instantly after just a couple of clicks. They didn't even credit check. Incredible isn't it?

    Thanks again to both of you for your input. It is invaluable to me.

    Same here with our Helifax loans. One is significantly higher than the other (over £20k). Pre-approved. Click here. Instantly deposited to the bank account. As you say....incredible (especially given the credit we had already accumulated by this point).
    DFW Nerd No. 1484 LBM 07/01/15 Debt was £95k :eek: Now debt free and happy :j
  • Keezing
    Keezing Posts: 322 Forumite
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    Out of interest, is it worth me doing a CCA request to our creditors, even though thy are all relatively modern debts?

    AMEX - 2010 (although she "upgraded" the card in 2012 and her credit history only goes back to 2012 for this account)

    MBNA (1) - 2012

    MBNA (2) - 2015

    Barclaycard - 2012

    Barclays Loan - 2015

    Zopa Loan - 2015

    They were all online applications as far as we remember.
  • Keezing
    Keezing Posts: 322 Forumite
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    Hi All,

    So just a quick update on this 1 month in.

    MBNA accepted my repayment plan on both cards and waived future interest and charges.

    Barclaycard rejected my repayment plan but waived future interest and charges, and asked me to pay what I can afford.

    Zopa accepted my repayment plan and requested a 6 monthly review.

    Barclays hit me with a formal default notice for my loan after just 3 weeks and have not responded to my repayment plan offer.

    Amex have ignored every attempted communication.

    I have sent complaint letters to all creditors to ask for interest and charges to be refunded.

    Pretty happy with how things are going so far.
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