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Gas Meter doesn't exist!

baz9239
baz9239 Posts: 19 Forumite
edited 28 November 2016 at 4:13PM in Energy
Our gas meter does not seem to exist on anybodies database!

When we bought the house we were told that British Gas were the suppliers for both Gas and Electricity. (inside the gas meter box there is also a sticker saying the gas transporter is British Gas)

We have contacted BG and they have no record of gas supply and don't recognise the meter number. After ringing around the houses, BG, Transco then said that the supplier was Scottish Power. Scottish Power also denied any knowledge of the property or meter. Basically the gas meter is not on the national database and nobody acknowledges it's existence!

So in another attempt to get this sorted my wife has called Wales and West (who supposedly supply the area)... They have said address is not owned by them and the pipes were supplied by a small independent company called ESP.. On calling ESP they say it should be Scottish Power.... Scottish Power deny this once again!! What do we do? We are not receiving any gas bills at the moment, shouldn't really complain but don't want to get stung by a backdated bill!
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  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Keep records of all correspondence re the matter,file it away and do nothing. Take regular meter readings and convert this into a typical fuel cost. Put the money away in some kind of savings account. You have done your best,,why run around?
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  • spiro
    spiro Posts: 6,405 Forumite
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    If everybody is denying they are the supplier, pick a supplier and sign up with them. Unlike electricity gas meter points can have a status of shipperless (no supplier).
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  • Scottish_Power
    Scottish_Power Posts: 1,263 Organisation Representative
    baz9239 wrote: »
    Our gas meter does not seem to exist on anybodies database!

    When we bought the house we were told that British Gas were the suppliers for both Gas and Electricity. (inside the gas meter box there is also a sticker saying the gas transporter is British Gas)

    We have contacted BG and they have no record of gas supply and don't recognise the meter number. After ringing around the houses, BG, Transco then said that the supplier was Scottish Power. Scottish Power also denied any knowledge of the property or meter. Basically the gas meter is not on the national database and nobody acknowledges it's existence!

    So in another attempt to get this sorted my wife has called Wales and West (who supposedly supply the area)... They have said address is not owned by them and the pipes were supplied by a small independent company called ESP.. On calling ESP they say it should be Scottish Power.... Scottish Power deny this once again!! What do we do? We are not receiving any gas bills at the moment, shouldn't really complain but don't want to get stung by a backdated bill!


    Hi baz9239

    I apologise for the problems you are having confirming your gas supply.

    So I can get this investigated further for you, are you possibly able to email me at [EMAIL="social@scottishpower.com"]social@scottishpower.com[/EMAIL] with your full address and gas meter serial number please?

    Kind regards
    Faye
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Scottish Power. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • davidgmmafan
    davidgmmafan Posts: 1,459 Forumite
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    As has already been suggested don't bust a gut. The sooner this gets sorted the quicker you will be paying someone for your gas so why rush? It sounds like you have made reasonable efforts to establish who the supplier is.

    The only thing I would add to earlier messages is the suggestion to sign up to another supplier may not work. In my experience you need to speak to the section that would deal with new connections. Otherwise the supplier may try to take it over and realize all isn't well.

    The supply needs to be registered in the same way that a supply to a new build property does.
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  • Wolf3
    Wolf3 Posts: 216 Forumite
    As Spiro has kindly pointed out pick a supplier and sign up with them. Unlike electricity, gas meter points can have a status of shipperless.

    Firstly i would get ESP to confirm the Meter Point Reference Number (MPRN) for your property before ringing the supplier
  • 88888
    88888 Posts: 8 Forumite
    Was this resolved in the end? I'm currently having the same problem, even national grid have no record or MPRN number. Their response was to pick a supplier in order for them to register a new MPRN number. Contacted npower as my chosen supplier only to be told they don't start new supplies but only take on new customers that switch from existing ones!
  • mama4321
    mama4321 Posts: 66 Forumite
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    We had this problem too. The only supplier we found who would take us on was British gas.
  • 88888
    88888 Posts: 8 Forumite
    I've tried British Gas too! They just keep saying, "you don't have gas" and suggest contacting national grid and the endless loop if being passed on continues! Did you talk to any particular department and what was the situation on back payments, if you don't mind me asking?
  • I would suggest speaking to the gas transporter such as ESP, they can then confirm who is the registered supplier.

    Once you know who the supplier is send a written request to them (email or letter) asking them to open an account. If you have no response from them send the same letter or email again a few months later, this way if they ever do get round to setting up an account you will only be liable for the last 12 months usage, google Ofgem back billing principle for more information.
  • spiro
    spiro Posts: 6,405 Forumite
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    I would suggest speaking to the gas transporter such as ESP, they can then confirm who is the registered supplier.
    As has been pointed out twice gas metering points can have a status of Shipperless (no supplier) unlike elec which does not.
    IT Consultant in the utilities industry specialising in the retail electricity market.

    4 Credit Card and 1 Loan PPI claims settled for £26k, 1 rejected (Opus).
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