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Where are mortgage rates going?

Purely personal relevance, do people think market leading 5 year fixed rate mortgages will be higher in 2 years time and if so by how much?

I have an ERC if I want to remortgage now but it might be worth paying if rates are 1% higher in 2 years time.....
I think....

What will be the market leading 5 year mortgage fix in November 2018? 68 votes

Same as now - 1.85%
20%
JonbvndenvorelowlandsmattJohnLondonJack_Johnson_the_acornsammy70BarleyGBBOX68timthebinekumi00fatbeetleMatt_LSharan1981SimonW90 14 votes
Less than 1% higher - up to 2.85%
29%
padingtonlush_walrusThrugelmirrich68ess0twoneo2020Jon_B_2Filo25aflygagahouseMallotum_XChopperSTpinklady21Herzloskayfazlee111sTrickyTree83richy4Gilly91dadtobe 20 votes
More than 1% higher - 2.85%+
26%
aardvaakcatriona79SapphirenmjamsjebervicgfpluxJoeCrystalMacMicksterrtho782mrgingePuddylovesteampowereddipdapDandytfpeter3hgKendall80Delete33kp0510 18 votes
How long is a piece of string?
23%
michaelswotsthatbrowsingidbutterfly72Jason74daaavechucknorrisworried_jimpawlalaWake_up_callfluffpig51mm5mayonnaiseSurrey_EApad1231PixarFan 16 votes
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  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
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    Early redemption clause? When does your current fix end? Surely if you have an ERC you'd just watch the market and make a move at the first sign of a rise?

    Also, the poll doesn't have an option for "lower than now".

    Before Trump got elected, I would have said my bet is for same as now withing a margin of 0.5%. So basically down to 1.3% up to 2.3% (if we're basing it on your figure of 1.8%). Governments and central banks don't know any other way at this point and it was always going to take some unusual event or the market finally asserting itself to kind things up a bit. But Trump... I have no idea what his policies will be.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Less than 1% higher - up to 2.85%
    Another US rate rise (albeit small) next month will set the tone going forward.

    Lenders have to utilise any remaining funds under the Mortgage Funding for Lending Scheme now. Repayments to the BOE start towards the backend of 2018. So lenders access to cheap money will be gone.
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    I've heard of what goes up must come down but I haven't heard of what goes down must come up

    Real rates will be negative for prime borrowers for all of our lifetimes imo
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,133 Forumite
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    How long is a piece of string?
    GreatApe wrote: »
    I've heard of what goes up must come down but I haven't heard of what goes down must come up

    Real rates will be negative for prime borrowers for all of our lifetimes imo
    US rates are climbing, I wonder where they will top out - we know the uk economy is probably extremely interest rate sensitive but is the US so bad?

    I think the gbp devaluation inflation can probably be ignored by the boe as a one off but the new govt I suspect may be more old fashioned about 'sound money' and normal interest rates
    I think....
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Less than 1% higher - up to 2.85%
    michaels wrote: »
    US rates are climbing, I wonder where they will top out

    Take a long time to normalise. The effect will be to raise borrowing rates elsewhere around the globe. Irrespective of what Central Banks do locally.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,133 Forumite
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    How long is a piece of string?
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Take a long time to normalise. The effect will be to raise borrowing rates elsewhere around the globe. Irrespective of what Central Banks do locally.
    What is the mechanism for that?
    I think....
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    How long is a piece of string?
    I'm looking at October/ November 2018 too for fixes ending.

    Starting to think about paying them off. A couple of years ago the mortgage rate was easy to beat but it's starting to take more headspace than I'm willing to allocate.

    I'm with the how long is a piece of string answer and will let them run until the end and see what's about at the time. If rates are very low I'll let them run but, if not, I'll change focus and prioritise overpayments.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Less than 1% higher - up to 2.85%
    michaels wrote: »
    What is the mechanism for that?

    The rate that investors will demand for their money. Trumps win immediately sparked a reaction in Government debt yields across Europe.
  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 23 November 2016 at 2:23AM
    Less than 1% higher - up to 2.85%
    The markets offering 2.48% on a ten year fix.

    That says it all. Interest rates one day might get to 2.5% but don't expect much more than that any time soon.

    https://www.uswitch.com/mortgages/remortgaging/?mortgage_search%5Brepayment_method%5D=capital_repayment&mortgage_search%5Bmortgage_type%5D=fixed&mortgage_search%5Binitial_period%5D=120&ref=guide~15704
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  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    More than 1% higher - 2.85%+
    Purely anecdotal. I was told this story today.
    Luxembourg. Meeting three weeks ago (before Trump election) mortgage discussed in a general way. 2nd meeting this week getting down to specific details. Bank manager "the rates (we are offering) have risen since the American election"
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
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