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House Buying Remains Unaffordable at 17.8% of take home pay...

michaels
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edited 15 November 2016 at 5:51PM in Debate House Prices & the Economy
Or not, in fact mortgage costs are approaching a recent low at only 17.8% of take home pay for the average FTB.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37987696

Then again I know someone who spends £70 per month on their iPhone package - on a 2 year IO fix at 0.99% that iPhone is costing them as much as an extra 84k of mortgage would.....
I think....
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  • wotsthat
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    michaels wrote: »
    Then again I know someone who spends £70 per month on their iPhone package - on a 2 year IO fix at 0.99% that iPhone is costing them as much as an extra 84k of mortgage would.....

    In the forumites favourite place (Stoke) your friend has a choice of 565 properties available for less than the cost of running their iPhone.
  • michaels
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    Then again someone else I know bought a second (holiday) home (before the stamp duty change) because it was cheaper per month than storage for their unneeded furniture after a house move, which I suspect has not helped housing availability....
    I think....
  • chucknorris
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    michaels wrote: »
    Or not, in fact mortgage costs are approaching a recent low at only 17.8% of take home pay for the average FTB.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37987696

    Then again I know someone who spends £70 per month on their iPhone package - on a 2 year IO fix at 0.99% that iPhone is costing them as much as an extra 84k of mortgage would.....

    They must be really rich, I would never spend that much on a mobile.
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  • wotsthat wrote: »
    In the forumites favourite place (Stoke) your friend has a choice of 565 properties available for less than the cost of running their iPhone.

    Which if you think about it is a hilarious statistic.
  • ukcarper
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    I think property in my area is less affordable than it has been in the past. I first bought in 1970s at a time when prices were fairly high but if I was earning the equivelent money now I would not be able to buy. I don't think it's the deposited that's the problem as I think if you make sacrifices you should be able to save. But to buy the same house I bought in the 70s earning equivelent salaries we would need a mortgae of over 5x joint income which I think would be difficult to find.
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    We have the American banks and bankers to thank for fixing the artificial unsustainable high rates the central bankers were forcing onto the economy.
  • padington
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    michaels wrote: »
    Or not, in fact mortgage costs are approaching a recent low at only 17.8% of take home pay for the average FTB.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37987696

    Then again I know someone who spends £70 per month on their iPhone package - on a 2 year IO fix at 0.99% that iPhone is costing them as much as an extra 84k of mortgage would.....

    Funny you should say that, I've just downgraded to a free hand me down 2011 Samsung phone with a 10 day battery life and £5 a month bill.

    Apparently it's not smart though.

    I disagree.

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  • Dird
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    edited 29 November 2016 at 12:20PM
    Is 17% gross or net? Either way, 17% or 25% isn't that much of a difference
    My mortgage costs are about 13.5% of net salary, about 10% after factoring in extra incomes

    Intersting graph under wages section: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2462753/How-items-cost-risen-line-house-prices.html
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  • rtho782
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    I wish.

    Our FTB mortgage is 38% of our joint take home pay.
  • MacMickster
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    michaels wrote: »
    Or not, in fact mortgage costs are approaching a recent low at only 17.8% of take home pay for the average FTB.
    rtho782 wrote:
    I wish.

    Our FTB mortgage is 38% of our joint take home pay.

    I'm never a fan of these percentages.

    If joint take home pay is only £1k per month then you are not going to be able to buy no matter what percentage of take home pay would be required for a mortgage.

    If joint take home pay was £2k per month then 17.8% of net pay as a mortgage should allow you to get by, leaving around £1650 per month for bills, food, travel and leisure.

    38% of £3k leaves you better off than the couple paying only 17.8% of their £2k.

    The problem with these ultra-low short-term fixed rates is that you need to be able to afford whatever the going rate is when that short-term fix comes to an end. In only 2 years, salary is unlikely to have increased significantly, but the mortgage cost clearly could.
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