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Job offer withdrawn

Just wanted to check, but if someone is offered a job which they accepted - put their notice in at their current job, then the new job withdrew the offer, is their anything that can be done?

My friend is in the awful position of now being unemployed as the old job had already hired someone for her position.

I appreciate you can be fired for any reason within 2 years (or something like that) but from a bit of research it seems she can actually seek financial compensation ? Or am I wrong?
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  • London50
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    As far as I know there is no comeback in any way if an offer is withdrawn. It is IMO a risk a person takes when looking to move on from one company/job to another.
  • Undervalued
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    Kayalana99 wrote: »
    Just wanted to check, but if someone is offered a job which they accepted - put their notice in at their current job, then the new job withdrew the offer, is their anything that can be done?

    My friend is in the awful position of now being unemployed as the old job had already hired someone for her position.

    I appreciate you can be fired for any reason within 2 years (or something like that) but from a bit of research it seems she can actually seek financial compensation ? Or am I wrong?

    Only under the most exceptional circumstances mainly for the reason you have mentioned.

    If a contract has been formed that, for example, entitled her to four weeks notice and the offer was withdrawn two weeks before starting, she would certainly be entitled to two weeks pay.

    Sadly, beyond claiming any contractual notice, little else can be done.
  • Was the job offer possibly made subject to any conditions which may not have been met?
  • jrtfan
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    Was the job offer possibly made subject to any conditions which may not have been met?

    I wondered the same, or subject to satisfactory references. Was your friend actually given a reason for the offer of employment being withdrawn, OP?
  • Undervalued
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    jrtfan wrote: »
    I wondered the same, or subject to satisfactory references. Was your friend actually given a reason for the offer of employment being withdrawn, OP?

    Whilst that would be interesting the employer is under no legal obligation to give a reason.

    It does highlight that even a so called confirmed or unconditional offer provides little protection.

    In a head hunted situation it is sometimes possible to agree specific contractual terms that provide some protection. For example a guaranteed minimum period of employment or a pre agreed termination package. However, if you have simply applied in good faith for an advertised job then you have to accept the risk involved in moving from something that was more secure.
  • jrtfan
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    Whilst that would be interesting the employer is under no legal obligation to give a reason.

    It does highlight that even a so called confirmed or unconditional offer provides little protection.

    In a head hunted situation it is sometimes possible to agree specific contractual terms that provide some protection. For example a guaranteed minimum period of employment or a pre agreed termination package. However, if you have simply applied in good faith for an advertised job then you have to accept the risk involved in moving from something that was more secure.

    Hi Undervalued, thanks for replying. Just hypothetically, might the employer not be committing a breach of verbal contract though, if they later withdrew an unconditional offer of employment which the candidate had accepted (or if the candidate had met all conditions, but the offer was still withdrawn)? It says something about this on the link, under If you are offered a job and the offer is then withdrawn - I wondered if this might be what the OP was referring to when they mentioned a possibility of financial compensation.

    Would it not really be worthwhile pursuing, do you think; or, maybe it's out-of-date information and employment rules have changed meanwhile?

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/basic-rights-and-contracts/contracts-of-employment/#what_is_a_contact_of_employment

    It does seem a bit harsh to me, if employers can technically change their mind on a whim and expect no comeback, but then I don't know how the law stands regarding employment.
  • Masomnia
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    jrtfan wrote: »
    Hi Undervalued, thanks for replying. Just hypothetically, might the employer not be committing a breach of verbal contract though, if they later withdrew an unconditional offer of employment which the candidate had accepted (or if the candidate had met all conditions, but the offer was still withdrawn)? It says something about this on the link, under If you are offered a job and the offer is then withdrawn - I wondered if this might be what the OP was referring to when they mentioned a possibility of financial compensation.

    Would it not really be worthwhile pursuing, do you think; or, maybe it's out-of-date information and employment rules have changed meanwhile?

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/basic-rights-and-contracts/contracts-of-employment/#what_is_a_contact_of_employment

    It does seem a bit harsh to me, if employers can technically change their mind on a whim and expect no comeback, but then I don't know how the law stands regarding employment.

    If it was an unconditional offer that had been accepted and the employer then withdrew then yes it could well be considered a breach of contract.

    If it was conditional and for whatever reason the employer changed their mind, then it wouldn't be.
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  • TBagpuss
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    Even if it is unconditional and withdrawn the employee would only be entitled to statutorynotice - normally 1 week.
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • jrtfan
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    Again bearing in mind I'm not a legal professional, there was a case in August this year which might set a precedent (or it might not!). I won't link to it, but there is info available by searching McCann vs Snozone, and the employee was awarded considerably more than the statutory minimum. Maybe it will turn out to be an exception rather than a rule though.

    Of course, none of it might be relevant anyway in the case of the OP's friend :(
  • TBagpuss wrote: »
    Even if it is unconditional and withdrawn the employee would only be entitled to statutorynotice - normally 1 week.
    Statutory notice of 1 week only applies once you have 1 month's service. Before then statutory notice is zero. Have a look at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/18/section/86.
    jrtfan wrote: »
    Again bearing in mind I'm not a legal professional, there was a case in August this year which might set a precedent (or it might not!). I won't link to it, but there is info available by searching McCann vs Snozone, and the employee was awarded considerably more than the statutory minimum.
    Great spot. In this case, Mr McCann thought that he had verbally accepted an offer of a job as a maintenance assistant.

    An employment tribunal found that Mr McCann had been offered and accepted a role. Although no terms had been agreed as to salary, start date or notice period, the tribunal accepted that the salary was likely to be at the mid-point of the advertised salary range, and determined that a minimum reasonable notice period for the role would be one month. Accordingly, Mr McCann was awarded one month's salary for the employer's breach of contract.

    What is interesting about that case is that there was nothing in writing. The case sounds like a bit of an outlier to me, but it does demonstrate what is possible.
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