Ssp

[Deleted User]

Understand lasts for 28 weeks. But if employer pays you full pay whilst sick Im guessing they, in effect, keep the SSP?

If employer pays full pay for 26 weeks, then half pay, does this mean its full for 26 weeks, then 2 weeks at half pay plus ssp, then half pay after this?

Or does SSP just start after full pay ends?

sangie595

Since the employer pays the SSP then they get to "keep" nothing!

Whether half pay "includes SSP" or not depends on the terms - it is up to them.

So the only person who can answer this is the employer.

Undervalued

When SSP runs out, if you are still sick you can claim ESA. This is paid direct and not via your employer.

Any other company sick pay is entirely down to your terms and conditions of employment.

After a few months you will have to attend an ESA "medical" which will decide if you are eligible to continue to receive it.

Acc72

If you are off sick, the Statutory minimum (after 3 waiting days) is £17.69 per day / £88.45 per week (i.e. SSP).


This is paid directly by your employer (employers used to be able to reclaim this via their HMRC payment, however this stopped a couple of years ago).


If you are contractually entitled to a higher rate of pay, then this is effectively SSP at an enhanced rate.


Half pay would be half pay (not half plus anything else) - it is just that the enhanced rate has changed.

sangie595

Acc72 wrote: »

If you are off sick, the Statutory minimum (after 3 waiting days) is £17.69 per day / £88.45 per week (i.e. SSP).


This is paid directly by your employer (employers used to be able to reclaim this via their HMRC payment, however this stopped a couple of years ago).


If you are contractually entitled to a higher rate of pay, then this is effectively SSP at an enhanced rate.


Half pay would be half pay (not half plus anything else) - it is just that the enhanced rate has changed.

Actually, with some employers it is half pay plus SSP. That is the standard term in local authorities.

TELLIT01

sangie595 wrote: »

Actually, with some employers it is half pay plus SSP. That is the standard term in local authorities.

When I was working on IS and ESA claims processing what we generally found was the full sick pay didn't have an element of SSP but the half pay period included SSP - SSP wasn't on top of the half pay.

sangie595

TELLIT01 wrote: »

When I was working on IS and ESA claims processing what we generally found was the full sick pay didn't have an element of SSP but the half pay period included SSP - SSP wasn't on top of the half pay.

But it does depend on what the terms of employment are. As I said, some employers add it. This is a contractual issue, not a legal issue.

[Deleted User]

Acc72 wrote: »

If you are off sick, the Statutory minimum (after 3 waiting days) is £17.69 per day / £88.45 per week (i.e. SSP).


This is paid directly by your employer (employers used to be able to reclaim this via their HMRC payment, however this stopped a couple of years ago).


If you are contractually entitled to a higher rate of pay, then this is effectively SSP at an enhanced rate.


Half pay would be half pay (not half plus anything else) - it is just that the enhanced rate has changed.

Ah I thought the government paid this to employers who then just topped it up.

[Deleted User]

sangie595 wrote: »

Actually, with some employers it is half pay plus SSP. That is the standard term in local authorities.

Yes think it is with NHS as you say.

I vaguely remember ESA on top once SSP runs out.

Is there a linking period wth ESA though? Its been over a year since last time...

TELLIT01

If it's over a year since your previous ESA claim it won't link.

sangie595

I realise this is a radical suggestion in view of previous threads - but the answer lies in the contract, and therefore it is the employer who needs to answer it. You, or us, trying to guess the answer isn't going to work!