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Debt Payment Refund
souppy
Posts: 3 Newbie
Hi. I had a quick question about whether I am able to get/collectors are obligated to pay, a refund on a debt repayment that I recently made (Yesterday)?
Basically, I had been meaning to apply for council tax reduction due to current unemployment status but had forgotten and was recently given a "scary" letter by debt collectors (Scott and Co on behalf of Glasgow City Council) for the rather large sum of £811 (inc 10% charge). I promptly sent my evidence for council tax reduction to GCC, which should amount to £0 (Still have to pay water charge), but had this letter hanging over me and will have a couple weeks wait until the recalculated bill comes through. I wrongly thought that this had an massively ill effect on my credit rating (which is near perfect) so promptly stuck the full amount on one of my credit cards, totalling ~£835 with CC fee. I have just realised that I have been rather stupid as when I receive my recalculated bill (likely between £20-£250) the fees will be far smaller, probably about £60 - £80 less. I also paid over the phone which I think makes the transaction a "distance sale" (possibly?) which could give me even more rights. So can anyone tell me whether I am entitled to a full refund of my payment (inc fees) which the intention of settling the account as soon as the much lower recalculated bill comes through. I am quite sure they will probably try and fob me off but would like to know what my legal entitlement is.
Thanks.
TLDR: Am I entitled to a refund (with fees) of a debt repayment I made, over the phone, which was actually way over the odds?
Basically, I had been meaning to apply for council tax reduction due to current unemployment status but had forgotten and was recently given a "scary" letter by debt collectors (Scott and Co on behalf of Glasgow City Council) for the rather large sum of £811 (inc 10% charge). I promptly sent my evidence for council tax reduction to GCC, which should amount to £0 (Still have to pay water charge), but had this letter hanging over me and will have a couple weeks wait until the recalculated bill comes through. I wrongly thought that this had an massively ill effect on my credit rating (which is near perfect) so promptly stuck the full amount on one of my credit cards, totalling ~£835 with CC fee. I have just realised that I have been rather stupid as when I receive my recalculated bill (likely between £20-£250) the fees will be far smaller, probably about £60 - £80 less. I also paid over the phone which I think makes the transaction a "distance sale" (possibly?) which could give me even more rights. So can anyone tell me whether I am entitled to a full refund of my payment (inc fees) which the intention of settling the account as soon as the much lower recalculated bill comes through. I am quite sure they will probably try and fob me off but would like to know what my legal entitlement is.
Thanks.
TLDR: Am I entitled to a refund (with fees) of a debt repayment I made, over the phone, which was actually way over the odds?
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Hi,
I would say your chances of getting money out of a DCA, especially scotts, will be next to impossible.
Even more so when it was a council tax debt.
However once you have the adjusted bill, you could put it all in writing and ask for the difference to be refunded.
That should not be beyond the realms of possibility.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0 -
They're collecting on behalf of the council so if you end up having overpaid for this year you would have to talk to the council about a refund.
Council Tax is a priority debt due to bailiffs and possible committal so you were right to treat it more seriously than credit card debt.
However, just to clarify, councils do not report to credit reference agencies, whereas credit cards do.0 -
Council Tax is a priority debt due to bailiffs and possible committal so you were right to treat it more seriously than credit card debt.
However, just to clarify, councils do not report to credit reference agencies, whereas credit cards do.
Hi all
I just wanted to clarify that as this relates to Council Tax owed in Scotland, committal to prison is not a possible direct consequence of non-payment. It is still of course a priority debt in every other sense as fatbelly rightly states, especially now that it has been passed to sheriff officers, and just as in England/Wales it is not reported to credit reference agencies.We work as money advisers for National Debtline and have specific permission from MSE to post to try to help those in debt. Read more information on National Debtline in MSE's Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help guide. If you find you're struggling with debt and need further help try our online advice tool My Money Steps0 -
Thank you.
Only the English and Welsh get jailed then.0 -
Thank you.
Only the English and Welsh get jailed then.
I blame Mel Gibson personally !!!
Seems they have more freedoms north of the border than you think !!I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0 -
The costs are set at the time the application went through court - they won't alter that now as they were set based on the balance at the time and were correct when that occurred.
You'll can certainly get a refund on any balance overpaid but they'll not refund the whole payment so that you can pay again at a lower amount.
CraigI no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0
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