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Received draft contracts without the deed documents
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SKG2016
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My solicitor has received the draft contracts without deed documents from the seller's solicitors, how long do you think this will take to retrieve. In addition should I allow my solicitor to submit the searches on the property without the deed documents?
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It is possible to download a copy of the title for a property (assuming the property has been registered at the Land Registry), along with a title plan showing the land covered by the title from the Land registry website for £6.
Your solicitor will need a copy of the title plan before they are able to apply for a local authority search.
Ask the EA to chase your vendor's solicitor to provide a copy of the title and title plan.0 -
Ok thanks for this, I will chase the vendor's solicitor.0
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Is the property title registered or unregistered?
If you're not sure, check here.
If it's there, download a copy for £3.0 -
It is possible to download a copy of the title for a property (assuming the property has been registered at the Land Registry), along with a title plan showing the land covered by the title from the Land registry website for £6.
Your solicitor will need a copy of the title plan before they are able to apply for a local authority search.
Ask the EA to chase your vendor's solicitor to provide a copy of the title and title plan.
And if it's unregistered? No deeds at the Land Registry!
OP, if you want the property get the Local Land Search ordered, some council's take a while to complete themCurrently studying for a Diploma - wish me luck
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Also - if you're going to get the Title Plan - then get the Register entry too (a further £3).
I presume when you say "Deed documents" that it is the "Title Plan" you mean - or do you mean "Deed documents" (ie original paper Deeds from when the house was built).
I have two sets of documentation for my house:
- the "Deed" documents (ie the original papers from when the house was built prior to modern-day "Title Plans")
- the modern day "Title Plan" and "Register" entry
The "Deed" documents contain extra information that isn't there in the modern day "Title Plan" and "Register" entry.0 -
Naff sellere's solicitors. Can't see how they draw up the draft contract in the first place without seeing the Land Registry entries, any relevant lease, and/or the unregistered deeds.
Could be a simple admin error - if the draft contract contains reference to the title - either "the title is regfiostered at HM Land Registry under title number [ e.g. YZ1234546]" or "the title shall commence with a conveyance on sale dated [dd/mmm/yyyy] and made between [AB] and [CD" then the secretary simply forgot to photocopy the documents and put them in the envelope. In practice you can't dreaw upa draft contract without seeing the documents. in that case it is a simple matte rof your solicitor phonjiing them up and pointingf out they forgot to enclose them and no big deal.
Or is the "draft contract" simply a form with a load of blanks? That would be a sign of inefficiency on the seller's solicitor's part. It may or may not mean that they haven't yet got the relevant copies/deeds.RICHARD WEBSTER
As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.0 -
Richard_Webster wrote: »Naff sellere's solicitors. Can't see how they draw up the draft contract in the first place without seeing the Land Registry entries, any relevant lease, and/or the unregistered deeds.
Could be a simple admin error - if the draft contract contains reference to the title - either "the title is regfiostered at HM Land Registry under title number [ e.g. YZ1234546]" or "the title shall commence with a conveyance on sale dated [dd/mmm/yyyy] and made between [AB] and [CD" then the secretary simply forgot to photocopy the documents and put them in the envelope. In practice you can't dreaw upa draft contract without seeing the documents. in that case it is a simple matte rof your solicitor phonjiing them up and pointingf out they forgot to enclose them and no big deal.
Or is the "draft contract" simply a form with a load of blanks? That would be a sign of inefficiency on the seller's solicitor's part. It may or may not mean that they haven't yet got the relevant copies/deeds.
That's such a good point, I'm a first time buyer so I wouldn't know about things like this to pick up! Yesterday I told my solicitor to go ahead with submitting the searches but now I'm starting to think how this is possible without the "deed documents". Not entirely sure what she means by deed documents now. I will revert back to her and ask her. I'm hoping it is an admin error as you are completely right how can the seller's solicitors write a draft contract without it.0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »Also - if you're going to get the Title Plan - then get the Register entry too (a further £3).
I presume when you say "Deed documents" that it is the "Title Plan" you mean - or do you mean "Deed documents" (ie original paper Deeds from when the house was built).
I have two sets of documentation for my house:
- the "Deed" documents (ie the original papers from when the house was built prior to modern-day "Title Plans")
- the modern day "Title Plan" and "Register" entry
The "Deed" documents contain extra information that isn't there in the modern day "Title Plan" and "Register" entry.
Not sure tbh, as I am a first time buyer, so all of this is new to me.0 -
well paying the £3 would be a good way to
a) learn and
b) answer some of your questions!0
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