unsatisfactory references

orangeslimes

You can make a subject access request for the references as people say, and the employer is legally obliged to respond, but it can be valid grounds to withhold the reference on grounds on confidentiality. See https://ico.org.uk/media/for-organisations/documents/2775/references_v1_final.pdf

It's still worth making the formal request though.

[Deleted User]

Did the new job exist? And what type of job had you gone for? Why I say because every employer who were the 'reference taker' sort and there haven't been many! (only largely those with understandable compliance) over the last few years and then I'd say most are more interested in obtaining details after you start (because I'm imagining they can still fall safely back on the 2 year rule)

Could your reference have been time dependent? And simply not responded in time. No word said can be considered as negative.

Are you 30 with just the one job? Perhaps the tutor reference was just considered way out of date? You could have started and been messed about? I don't like to say but Where would that have been on the scale of fairness? (As no reason for dismissal need be provided let's not forget) if there is nothing more to this, then you have possibly had a lucky escape, if they couldn't extend to give 'the benefit of doubt'.

Peppy86

Deleted%20User wrote: »

Did the new job exist? And what type of job had you gone for? Why I say because every employer who were the 'reference taker' sort and there haven't been many! (only largely those with understandable compliance) over the last few years and then I'd say most are more interested in obtaining details after you start (because I'm imagining they can still fall safely back on the 2 year rule)

Could your reference have been time dependent? And simply not responded in time. No word said can be considered as negative.

Are you 30 with just the one job? Perhaps the tutor reference was just considered way out of date? You could have started and been messed about? I don't like to say but Where would that have been on the scale of fairness? (As no reason for dismissal need be provided let's not forget) if there is nothing more to this, then you have possibly had a lucky escape, if they couldn't extend to give 'the benefit of doubt'.

Well, I am just 30 with just 1 job experience.

marliepanda

If your uni reference is from when you were 21 ish then it's probably out of date. You ten years ago probably isn't relevant.

I was similar to you but I simply provided two references from those senior to me in my workplace. One worked with me more directly but one was 'my boss'

missbiggles1

Peppy86 wrote: »

well, if someone say spontaneously "you can give my reference" and after he gives a bad one, it is pretty unfair.

Why?......

Peppy86

marliepanda wrote: »

If your uni reference is from when you were 21 ish then it's probably out of date. You ten years ago probably isn't relevant.

I was similar to you but I simply provided two references from those senior to me in my workplace. One worked with me more directly but one was 'my boss'

I've finished uni in 2011. Is it out of date?

Peppy86

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Why?......

if someone says "Ok, I can help you" and he doesn't... is it fair or not?

Mr.Generous

Here's what I'd do. Get a friend to offer you employment subject to satisfactory references and ask again. Ideal if the friend lives some distance away, makes it that bit harder to be caught out. Not many employers would investigate the business requesting the reference, they will just supply it. Then you will know what they said, and you might not like it.

christaitfife

A 5-year-old reference from a tutor will most likely be a copy & paste job. It is most likely to have been vaugue and not exactly personal (how could he even remember you after such a long time?).

Get a copy of the refrences to find out, but also look for some ocational voluntry work. You will then have two recent, [hopefully] good references for the future.

Peppy86

christaitfife wrote: »

A 5-year-old reference from a tutor will most likely be a copy & paste job. It is most likely to have been vaugue and not exactly personal (how could he even remember you after such a long time?).

Get a copy of the refrences to find out, but also look for some ocational voluntry work. You will then have two recent, [hopefully] good references for the future.

It also depends by the manager. I got my 1 job just giving my tutor reference. There were not problems at that time.

I think it would be better to contact references at first, before planning an interview. It is a waste of time to give a job that, for some reason I don't know, will be withdraw .