Fingers crossed for Comrade Yeremiy tomorrow!

westernpromise

Apparently the early indications are that the potty one will win even bigger than he did last year.

I think this is something on which everyone who frequents this board can agree. We all, for our different reasons, want Comrade Khorbiyn to win.

Go Jezzer!

CLAPTON

westernpromise wrote: »

Apparently the early indications are that the potty one will win even bigger than he did last year.

I think this is something on which everyone who frequents this board can agree. We all, for our different reasons, want Comrade Khorbiyn to win.

Go Jezzer!

well the boomer deserves it

born in a manor house with a silver spoon in his mouth
never wanted for anything
never had to do a proper job
believes he is poor on £130,000 per annum

he will deserve his footnote in the history books, as the last leader of a once great political party.

bobbymotors

Yep, come on Jezza, win big!

Jason74

westernpromise wrote: »

Apparently the early indications are that the potty one will win even bigger than he did last year.

I think this is something on which everyone who frequents this board can agree. We all, for our different reasons, want Comrade Khorbiyn to win.

Go Jezzer!

I bloody well don't, and nor does anyone else who cares about things like having a properly functioning parliamentary democracy. Now I totally get why some people would be happy to never again see another Labour government, but for democracy to work, we need a viable alternative Government to the Tories (and given their position, that alternative really needs to be left of centre).

Labour at present are a shambles who can't even come close to being a credible alternative, and all the time Corbyn and his band of losers remain in charge, they never will be. That's bad news for democracy and for the country, regardless of whether you want to see Labour in power or not.

bobbymotors

Jason74 wrote: »

I bloody well don't, and nor does anyone else who cares about things like having a properly functioning parliamentary democracy. Now I totally get why some people would be happy to never again see another Labour government, but for democracy to work, we need a viable alternative Government to the Tories (and given their position, that alternative really needs to be left of centre).

Labour at present are a shambles who can't even come close to being a credible alternative, and all the time Corbyn and his band of losers remain in charge, they never will be. That's bad news for democracy and for the country, regardless of whether you want to see Labour in power or not.

You're not wrong.

But it's hard to be sad about it as they believe so fervently how right they are.

But, as I've said on another thread, can anyone name a current or historical occasion where hard left policies have worked?

However the PLP will eventually probably split and even if it doesn't, a credible opposition of some kind will emerge within 10 years.

And we do need a credible opposition

mrginge

Personally I think Smith is worse than Corbyn.

bigfreddiel

mrginge wrote: »

Personally I think Smith is worse than Corbyn.

I think all those labour MPs who voted no confidence in him, but say they will serve with Jezza, if he wins are even worse.

They're just frightened of being deselected.

How can you trust anyone who votes against their leader, then agrees to stand by them when they remain leader with an even bigger mandate?

Cheers fj

westernpromise

Funnily enough, these Labouroids piously bleating about how dweadful it is that their leader is an @r5ewipe and that they can't win, and how tewwible that is for democracy, were nowhere to be seen or heard in 2001. At that time the inbuilt bias to Labour meant that if Labour and the Tories tied in vote share Labour would win 160 more seats. Funnily enough, the impossibility of defeat didn't bother Labour one bit. That kind of democracy they were fine with.

Every generation has to learn for itself about Labour. As one who has, I can think of no better future than one in which Labour disappears, with its sneers, malice, and envy never to be seen again.

fatbeetle

Corbyn is the Tory party's wet dream made flesh.

westernpromise

I have started celebrating the Conservatives' 2020 election victory already. In fact I might even throw in 2025 and 2030 as well.

bobbymotors

At that time the inbuilt bias to Labour meant that if Labour and the Tories tied in vote share Labour would win 160 more seats.

I knew it was quite a few but didnt know it was that many. I do recall reading that it took about 30000 votes to elect a labour MP and almost 50000 for a conservative one (on average)

Every generation has to learn for itself about Labour.

Yep, they sure do. The problem is it sometimes sounds so plausible, extra spending on the NHS, soak the rich, more jobs, more housing, more workers rights.

But this is the real world, not a socialist utopia, that doesn't exist anywhere in the world, never has, and never will.