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How to lose weight - it's simple

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  • Pollycat wrote: »
    This is meaningless without context of height.

    Almost 12 stone isn't a great weight if you're only 5 feet tall.

    'Exercise is a waste of time'?
    What do you think walking is then?
    Isn't that exercise? :rotfl:

    Well of course 5' 11"

    Thanks for pulling me up on that, obvious it was meaningless.

    Good luck fj
  • Anyway, running is a not bad way to lose weight, but it's a little hard to insist on it! i think running with music is not bad lifestyle!
  • System
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    Sharon87 wrote: »
    Really? No exercise? Being 4ft 11, I have to exercise to lose weight, reduction in calories just doesn't work. Believe me, when I stopped going to the gym (because of an operation), even with eating the same things as I did before I put on 4kgs! Now that I'm exercising again my weight is going down steadily.

    Stop being a close minded idiot and realise different things work for different people!

    Oh and I don't watch daytime TV cause I have a job, something that you may not have based on the time of day you post.

    But you would only gain weight if you had an excess in your intake of calories. So if you can't lose weight by reducing calories then that would mean that even after your reduction you are still not in deficit.

    At a very basic level - the body can't fuel itself out of nothing. If it is in calorie deficit then there is weight loss because fat fuels the body.
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  • fairy_lights
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    Walcott wrote: »
    But you would only gain weight if you had an excess in your intake of calories. So if you can't lose weight by reducing calories then that would mean that even after your reduction you are still not in deficit.

    At a very basic level - the body can't fuel itself out of nothing. If it is in calorie deficit then there is weight loss because fat fuels the body.
    But the problem is that for someone who's 4'11, the number of calories they can eat without gaining weight is going to be very small. To lose weight they would have to reduce their calories buy a lot more than say, a 6ft man, so unless a very petite lady has a willpower of iron and is happy to eat tiny low calorie meals, they will need to do exercise to allow them to eat a few hundred more calories a day.
  • System
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    The calorie intake required would be proportionate to the height? I would have thought someone that is 4'11 wouldn't have the hunger of a 6ft man so not sure how that is relevant.
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  • bigfreddiel
    bigfreddiel Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    For anyone wanting to lose weight this the answer and it's very simple.

    Eat less - exercise a bit.

    And that's it. If you really do want to lose weight just do it!

    Diets do not work, that is why there are so many.

    Eating less is just as easy, if not easier than following some fad or diet of the moment.

    Good luck fj

    Above was my initial post, and I was RIGHT! I know am right and Dr MAX Pemberton has just published this article in the Daily Mail

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3839065/DR-MAX-MIND-DOCTOR-s-not-rocket-science-want-lose-weight-eat-less.html

    What he says is "if you want to lose weight eat less"

    Absolutely correct. This is how the article starts:

    A few years ago, I had a patient who'd battled endlessly with her weight. She was in her 50s and had recently developed type 2 diabetes, yet she was adamant she couldn't lose weight despite going on diets.
    She refused to listen to the dietitians who advised her to eat less, convinced instead she was simply genetically predisposed to being fat.
    In my experience, it's an all-too- common attitude.


    So folks don't bother with diets, they don't work, just eat less, it's that simple


    Cheers fj
  • MrsShazbat
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    edited 17 October 2016 at 9:48PM
    I lost 4st 2002-04. Inevitably when life changed (new job, new social life, new partner) and I put 6st back on which is where I am now. I have an underactive thyroid. My portions are smaller than they used to be, I eat less fruit due to allergies stemming from hay fever, but otherwise eat lots of vegetables and have the odd drink or treat. I always halve any Chinese or Indian takeaway - tonight I made a bolognese and halved it so I've got lunch tomorrow. Last year it took me exactly 10 months to lose a stone - during that time my husband almost died and spent 7 weeks in hospital and I still didn't lose weight with the stress of it or the relentless hospital visiting cycle. I've put half of that stone back on and constantly yo-yo around the 7lbs-off mark - last week lost 1lb, this week gained 2lbs.

    10 weeks ago my husband and I got a dog. The main purpose being to exercise. She's a husky so doesn't exactly dawdle. I walk up to a mile with her every morning at stupid o'clock - further on weekends, due to work at the moment hubby walks her alone in the evening but it clocks in at a 1.5 miles. Last week on a day off, I walked her nearly 3 miles. At work I rarely use the lifts. Zero difference.
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  • MrsShazbat wrote: »
    I lost 4st 2002-04. Inevitably when life changed (new job, new social life, new partner) and I put 6st back on which is where I am now. I have an underactive thyroid. My portions are smaller than they used to be, I eat less fruit due to allergies stemming from hay fever, but otherwise eat lots of vegetables and have the odd drink or treat. I always halve any Chinese or Indian takeaway - tonight I made a bolognese and halved it so I've got lunch tomorrow. Last year it took me exactly 10 months to lose a stone - during that time my husband almost died and spent 7 weeks in hospital and I still didn't lose weight with the stress of it or the relentless hospital visiting cycle. I've put half of that stone back on and constantly yo-yo around the 7lbs-off mark - last week lost 1lb, this week gained 2lbs.

    10 weeks ago my husband and I got a dog. The main purpose being to exercise. She's a husky so doesn't exactly dawdle. I walk up to a mile with her every morning at stupid o'clock - further on weekends, due to work at the moment hubby walks her alone in the evening but it clocks in at a 1.5 miles. Last week on a day off, I walked her nearly 3 miles. At work I rarely use the lifts. Zero difference.

    Of course for one thing walking doesn't burn nearly as many calories as we think. In fact humans are rather good at being able to do it efficiently and after you adapt you will use even less energy.

    The body adapts to lower your BMR to conserve body mass when you are resting.

    Its pretty clever sometimes you need to shock it more.

    Its compounded by the fact you have an underactive thyroid that messes all things up. I still think you can lose weight you just have to figure out what works. Something will.
  • bigfreddiel
    bigfreddiel Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    MrsShazbat wrote: »
    I lost 4st 2002-04. Inevitably when life changed (new job, new social life, new partner) and I put 6st back on which is where I am now. I have an underactive thyroid. My portions are smaller than they used to be, I eat less fruit due to allergies stemming from hay fever, but otherwise eat lots of vegetables and have the odd drink or treat. I always halve any Chinese or Indian takeaway - tonight I made a bolognese and halved it so I've got lunch tomorrow. Last year it took me exactly 10 months to lose a stone - during that time my husband almost died and spent 7 weeks in hospital and I still didn't lose weight with the stress of it or the relentless hospital visiting cycle. I've put half of that stone back on and constantly yo-yo around the 7lbs-off mark - last week lost 1lb, this week gained 2lbs.

    10 weeks ago my husband and I got a dog. The main purpose being to exercise. She's a husky so doesn't exactly dawdle. I walk up to a mile with her every morning at stupid o'clock - further on weekends, due to work at the moment hubby walks her alone in the evening but it clocks in at a 1.5 miles. Last week on a day off, I walked her nearly 3 miles. At work I rarely use the lifts. Zero difference.
    If you put on 6st then you are eating and snacking far too much.

    Eat less.

    Walking at a fast pace not strolling will help keep you trim by exercising your heart.

    Cut out all low fat foods, laced with sugar.

    Eat off smaller plates.

    Above all stick toit

    Good luck fj
  • cazs
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    Regrettably, walking doesn't do that much in terms of calorie burn unless you're walking either uphill or very quickly on the flat indeed.

    I'm a pretty fast walker, but you still only burn around 100 cals for a flat half hour walk. That's the same as say, a slice of bread.

    The amount of calories in food vs the time it takes to work said food off is a real downer.

    So while exercise can help lose weight it is definitely slower than reducing calorie intake. However, whilst the theory is relatively straight forward, I agree that it's not easy peasy in practice.
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