Bus driver loses licence due to health help

dawn_rose

Thanks for everybody's responses, we have sent his fit note to his employer he's been signed off for 4 weeks. Anybody know what the next move will be. They haven't found the route cause of the problem and he has to go back in for more tests. We expected he would loose his job as a driver without a licence isn't much use, somebody on another board said to post here regarding chances of alternative employment. Dvla are sending a form out to surrender his licence. Thanks for your help.

JJG

nickcc wrote: »

I give one recent example of a drivers contract being terminated due to loss of license then posters can decide for themselves.

Driver doing a School run in a double decker just before Christmas, unruly children decided to play with spray snow and squirted driver in the face whilst driving. Driver taken to hospital and lost sight in one eye and license to drive PCV's taken away. No other work available so driver finished, no TV advertising claim company would consider taking on either the Child, School or bus company and the unions weren't interested. You can spout as much as you like about the drivers rights but no alternative work available so no job.

If you do know this person I strongly recommend you show them https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/criminal-injuries-compensation-authority. Also if the child was over the age of criminal responsibility I hope they were prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

sangie595

dawn_rose wrote: »

Thanks for everybody's responses, we have sent his fit note to his employer he's been signed off for 4 weeks. Anybody know what the next move will be. They haven't found the route cause of the problem and he has to go back in for more tests. We expected he would loose his job as a driver without a licence isn't much use, somebody on another board said to post here regarding chances of alternative employment. Dvla are sending a form out to surrender his licence. Thanks for your help.

We can't really tell you what the chances of alternative employment are, only that the employer must consider whether there is such employment.

Going4TheDream

dawn_rose wrote: »

Thanks for everybody's responses, we have sent his fit note to his employer he's been signed off for 4 weeks. Anybody know what the next move will be. They haven't found the route cause of the problem and he has to go back in for more tests. We expected he would loose his job as a driver without a licence isn't much use, somebody on another board said to post here regarding chances of alternative employment. Dvla are sending a form out to surrender his licence. Thanks for your help.

I am a little confused, has he lost his licence for ever or just had to inform DVLA of the condition which mean it is suspended for the interim? There is a difference.

if it is the latter, at this stage if it is not known what the illness is and it wouldn't be prudent for a company to dismiss immediately, without having concrete evidence that your OH would be either able or unable to return to his job, in the future. It may be that once the tests are done that any condition could be stabilized by medication and allow his to reapply for his licence. Many people with heart conditions/blackouts return to driving.

In my company in this situation, once the tests are done, we would request a report from the DR through occupational health to ascertain whether it would be likely the driver would be likely to be able to drive in the future, how long it might take, and details of any adjustments and take things from there.

Going4TheDream

Jibeddy wrote: »

Coming from a background of working in the transport and haulage industry, this talk of reasonable adjustments doesn't hold true here.

What actually happens is the driver will lose his Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) which in turn will lead to him being unable to fulfil his duties as this is a requirement to drive either a heavy goods vehicle, bus or coach. Now a fair chunk of what you can lose your CPC for isn't covered by the disability act which requires you to find alternative employment.

Without knowing his exact condition I couldn't comment. But most companies also have a policy of also supporting drivers who fall into this category, as this happens fairly frequently and some drivers will go to and from gaining and losing there CPC due to health reasons. It's an industry where drivers are becoming rarer and keeping hold of a decent worker in hope he'll regain the CPC is a risk most will take.

Good luck with this.

Sorry but is not strictly correct. The DPC is a driver training qualification that is required alongside the correct licence to be able to drive either PSV/HGV, in the event of illness, whilst the driver needs both to legally drive, it is the licence itself that is revoked on health ground and NOT the DPC.

The DPC will expire if the required training hours are not completed and has nothing to do with the disability act, however there are many reasons you can have your licence suspended for are covered.

nickcc

Guest101 wrote: »

I'm confused how the child even go so close as to do that?

Yes you're certainly confused. Child came down from upper deck with spray can in hand and squirted spray snow in drivers face, no screens to protect drivers where I live. Why o why do some posters have to contradict everything other posters state when they don't have a clue.

ohreally

nickcc wrote: »

Child came down from upper deck with spray can in hand and squirted spray snow in drivers face, no screens to protect drivers where I live.

Risk assessments neither suitable nor sufficient. What conclusions did the enforcing authority draw?

If I were that individual I would not let up on this one.

nickcc

ohreally wrote: »

Risk assessments neither suitable nor sufficient. What conclusions did the enforcing authority draw?

If I were that individual I would not let up on this one.

These replies really don't have anything to do with OP's post. What happened to my Colleague is in the past so whatever advice is being offered is irrelevant to the OP's post. As far as risk assessments are concerned, we still do not have any protection for the driver wether it be for School or evening services, transferred vehicles from London, Manchester etc have the safety screens removed before entering service at our location.

ohreally

nickcc wrote: »

These replies really don't have anything to do with OP's post.

Twas yourself who introduced the situation re another individual into the topic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯