Rent a room clarification

anselld

[Deleted User] wrote:

The relevant box does seem rather odd though. Why ask if you wish to claim rent a room relief when, as we agree, one does not need to declare it? Or is this simply for rents exceeding the allowable amount and claimed on the alternative basis?

It is there in the event that rental income as a live-in Landlord exceeds the allowance. In which case there is still the option to claim RaR (tick box) or to claim expense in the normal way.

edpvito

Never mind.

[Deleted User]

edpvito wrote: »

I am not ignoring the fact that the calculations are incorrect and I am going round in circles because surely someone from HMRC would be able to tell me what you seem to know that they apparently don't. Which I don't think is correct anyway. Certainly in gov gateway it is too late to amend the 2014/15 declaration. What you are implying is that I could somehow get in touch with HMRC and say 'do you mind if I amend my 2014/15 SA?' If that was possible then surely they would have told me that. I am able to amend the 2015/2016 self assessment and I had correctly selected the RaR option but it makes no difference. I select that option to get the allowance. I put in the income as it then asks me to do - c £3800. I had some heating work done on the house so I put that down as a maintenance expense and it says I owe several hundred pounds!!

Has anyone got any practical advice to how I can sort this out? I assume that CBA will just phone HMRC.

Did you put the exempt amount in box 37 equivalent?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/501201/sa105-2016.pdf

You have until 31 January 2017 to amend your 2014/15 return. Log in to your self-assessment- choose other self-assessment options - choose tax return options - change year to 2014/15 - choose amend return at bottom right. I have just done this for my brother-in-law ten minutes ago with no problems (no wear and tear allowance claimed)

Dazed_and_confused

edpvito wrote: »

I am not ignoring the fact that the calculations are correct and I am going round in circles because surely someone from HMRC would be able to tell me what you seem to know that they apparently don't. Which I don't think is correct anyway. Certainly in gov gateway it is too late to amend the 2014/15 declaration. What you are implying is that I could somehow get in touch with HMRC and say 'do you mind if I amend my 2014/15 SA?' If that was possible then surely they would have told me that. I am able to amend the 2015/2016 self assessment and I had correctly selected the RaR option but it makes no difference. I select that option to get the allowance. I put in the income as it then asks me to do - c £3800. I had some heating work done on the house so I put that down as a maintenance expense and it says I owe several hundred pounds!!

Has anyone got any practical advice to how I can sort this out? I assume that CAB will just phone HMRC.

I think you are wrong about amending the 2014:15 return. The deadline for submitting that return would have been 31:01:2016 (or later) so according to gov.uk you are well within the time limit to amend the return. Even after that time limit has expired it looks as though it's possible to sort it albeit possibly more complicated

https://www.gov.uk/self-assessment-tax-returns/corrections

[Deleted User]

Dazed_and_confused wrote: »

I think you are wrong about amending the 2014:15 return. The deadline for submitting that return would have been 31:01:2016 (or later) so according to gov.uk you are well within the time limit to amend the return. Even after that time limit has expired it looks as though it's possible to sort it albeit possibly more complicated

https://www.gov.uk/self-assessment-tax-returns/corrections

That is correct. I have amended returns today for 2012/13, 2013/14, 2014/15 and 2015/16. The latter two were amended online. The first two were downloaded and amended manually and an accompanying letter sent to HMRC.

In the op case- I strongly suspect that the exempt amount has not been included in box 37 ( not withstanding the fact that the rental should not have been declared in any case)

booksurr

edpvito wrote: »

I select that option to get the allowance. I put in the income as it then asks me to do - c £3800. I had some heating work done on the house so I put that down as a maintenance expense and it says I owe several hundred pounds!!

I appreciate OP won't be back but surely therein lies the problem - OP has deducted costs and so has over ridden the RAR declaration presumably leaving a net taxable figure hence they have been taxed despite trying to claim RAR