What taxes on other people would you support?

westernpromise

Failing to read or understand the post you are responding makes you look foolish. Try reading it again, perhaps aloud.

westernpromise

Incidentally, there should also be a tax on car batteries. That would put a stop to those stupid electric cars (which in reality burn coal, something no proper car does).

JP08

westernpromise wrote: »

Incidentally, there should also be a tax on car batteries. That would put a stop to those stupid electric cars (which in reality burn coal, something no proper car does).

Err, no they don't (or at least very little).

Here's what they are burning right now (if on charge) : http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

At the time of posting the numbers were (rounded to whole numbers)

Coal 0%
Nuclear 28%
Gas 40%
Wind 15%
Other UK generation 6%

Bought in from the continent - so exporting our pollution (though the French are heavily nuclear).
From the French 7%
From the Dutch 4%

There are no figures for solar - as it is not metered centrally.

Aberdeenangarse

JP08 wrote: »

Err, no they don't (or at least very little).

Here's what they are burning right now (if on charge) : http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

At the time of posting the numbers were (rounded to whole numbers)

Coal 0%
Nuclear 28%
Gas 40%
Wind 15%
Other UK generation 6%

Bought in from the continent - so exporting our pollution (though the French are heavily nuclear).
From the French 7%
From the Dutch 4%

There are no figures for solar - as it is not metered centrally.

Thanks for the info.

I really think there should be a Tax on people who post rubbish on Internet forums.

westernpromise

This is exactly why you cannot trust an environmentalist whack job: their "facts" are always deeply, deeply misleading.

The record lows in coal power generation come as the UK enters the summer months, which sees lower demand for electricity, and with more than half of the country’s coal capacity out of action, for example for planned maintenance.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/13/uk-energy-from-coal-hits-zero-for-first-time-in-over-100-years

The UK burns coal all right.
Working coal powered stations

Aberthaw B – Owned by RWE
Cottam – Owned by EDF
Drax – Owned by Drax
Eggborough – Owned by Eggborough
Fiddlers Ferry – Owned by SSE
Ratcliffe – Owned by Uniper
Rugeley –Owned by Engie
Uskmouth – Owned by SSE
West Burton A – Owned by EDF
http://www.energy-uk.org.uk/energy-industry/coal-generation.html

Coal globally provides 41% of world electricity.
http://www.worldcoal.org/coal/uses-coal/coal-electricity

But how's this. Let's use your stats honestly. Every time the national grid website shows no coal is being burned, a remote command would activate electric cars, and it would then become possible to drive them for as long as that persists. At all other times, they are remotely immobilised, unless you pay a modest CFCT (Coal-Fired Car Tax) of say £1,000 a year. Deal?

It is deeply immoral to have cars that run on coal and nuclear power. Will nobody think of the children?

JP08

Actually been digging around that 0% figure - it's part of quite a trend and the this May was first time since coal fired electricity generation began. As it is 0% today I'm guessing in the absence of any figures to the contrary that it has been there or in low single figures for the last 3months+.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/13/uk-energy-from-coal-hits-zero-for-first-time-in-over-100-years

UK coal energy production last year was 23% of the total for 2015/16. 7% down on previous year.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/513244/Press_Notice_March_2016.pdf.

westernpromise

But coal is used to generate 41% of electricity worldwide and those cars are sold worldwide. So they are coal-fired cars.

JP08

westernpromise wrote: »

But coal is used to generate 41% of electricity worldwide and those cars are sold worldwide. So they are coal-fired cars.

Surely it should be a weighted average ... ?

LHW99

The difficulty is calculating the lifetime carbon-cost of a car

Is it less polluting to continue driving a year-dot car, which uses more fuel but has had the materials extraction, manufacturing and disposal costs spread over 20+ years, or an electric car that needs new batteries every 3-5 years?

Malthusian

westernpromise wrote: »

No cycle lane, bike rack, or accident payout has ever been funded by a levy on cyclists. They simply parasite off existing infrastructure and then argue that denying it to other people is somehow free of cost. Of course if you create a cycle lane - which cyclists never, ever pay for, either to build or use - then you clearly are as good as destroying it so far as all other road users are concerned. It's as unavailable as if it had been physically destroyed.

Cycle lanes are an indirect tax on cyclists. They encourage idiot drivers in the belief that they don't have to look out for smaller vehicles, which results in some cyclists being killed prematurely, which increases the Government's Inheritance Tax receipts.

Speaking as a cyclist (groan) 99% of cycling lanes in this country are useless at best and dangerous at worst and should be de-painted. When the lines are removed the road will be exactly the same width as it was before, and therefore equally capable of carrying both cars and cyclists, with a significant increase in safety due to increased awareness. Drivers who need a white line to tell them not to drive into another vehicle need their licences confiscated.