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Deferring State Pension

I understand the rules about surviving spouse/partner claiming any additional state pension due after deceased defers it https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/525363/state-pension-deferral-if-you-reached-state-pension-age-before-6-april-2016-and-you-die-extra-information.pdf

The document clearly states the surviving spouse can claim the extra payments in examples ,
1. When the spouse dies before claiming
2. When the spouse dies after claiming but before deciding how the additional payments are made , i.e. Lump sum or weekly/monthly payments .

What happens after spouse claims and receives additional state pension and then dies , is the surviving partner able to claim as in the above 2 examples ?

Found it a bit unclear

Thanks
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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,951 Forumite
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    You mean that a pre 2016 rules pensioner has brought the deferred pension into payment, has received the lump sum/increased pension as appropriate, and dies at some point after this?

    If so, the information below seems relevant?

    https://www.gov.uk/additional-state-pension/overview
  • 33Lurcher
    33Lurcher Posts: 75 Forumite
    Thanks for reply , yes wife deferred June 2014 and intends to claim July 2017 and take deferred payments monthly ,as well as her State pension .
    I will be SP age Jan 2017 , the link you posted refers to additional state pension (serps) , I maybe getting confused re the terminoligy and we are still unclear if this included any deferred payments ?
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,951 Forumite
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    Your wife reached SPA under the old rules.

    You reach SPA under the new rules. Incidentally, have you obtained a new state pension statement?

    See https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/181235/derived-inherited-entitlement.pdf
  • PennyForThem_2
    PennyForThem_2 Posts: 1,036 Forumite
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    I reached pension age when 62 (4 years ago). I deferred. My husband died within a month of my deferring so I now have 'inherited' his because he was born 1942 and these are also deferred.

    I asked for a pension statement about 12 months ago and found that the deferred sp actually was much more than my NHS pension (Band 7 since 1998 - so 15k as opposed to 17k for sp)


    I am still deferred and still working at 65
    probably go on til 66 - best investment ever a deferred sp....
  • 33Lurcher
    33Lurcher Posts: 75 Forumite
    Yes got a recent statement online for Jan 2017 , 43 yrs Ni , many yrs contracted out £122.83 pw , wife was £131 pw when she deferred in June 2014 .
    We estimated roughly that she would receive £170 pw approx in July 2017 , reading that new link it says as she was in the old system any deferred payment can be claimed by me in the event of her dying 1st .

    Thanks Again
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    The jargon is that if you get a bigger pension as a reward for deferring, the extra pension is called - wait for it! - Extra Pension. It used to be known as "increments". There will be endless confusion if you call it Additional Pension.
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • 33Lurcher
    33Lurcher Posts: 75 Forumite
    Extra Pension got it thanks :)
  • Theta101
    Theta101 Posts: 140 Forumite
    What do you need to do to defer the state pension if you started receiving it 2 years ago?
  • 33Lurcher
    33Lurcher Posts: 75 Forumite
    Just ring up and they will sort it , you won't benefit from the 10.4% per yr that deferring generates , it was reduced to roughly half that (5.8%) from April this yr for new applications .
  • Theta101
    Theta101 Posts: 140 Forumite
    "you won't benefit from the 10.4% per yr that deferring generates , it was reduced to roughly half that (5.8%) from April this yr for new applications ."

    Oh, I didn't realise that!
    I thought if you reached SPA before 2016, then the 10.4% applied.
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