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I am buying a new bike, something for riding around town, bike rides and getting to and from the train station.

Looking to spend no more than £350/400.

I like the "classic" bikes but there are lots about. Does anyone know which one is the best to go for, Pendleton Somerby, Raleigh Spirit or Bobbin Birdie/Brownie?

I haven't ridden a bike in years so I really don't know!

Thanks

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  • Nasqueron
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    The 3 bikes you are looking at are all hybrid flat bars, they should all be fairly similar, I'd take the Pendleton as it has 7 gears vs 3 on the base model on the other 2. Only down side with the other 2 is they don't list the weight in the immediate part of the site so hard to compare. 13.4kg for the pendleton is quite hefty though

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  • Nasqueron wrote: »
    The 3 bikes you are looking at are all hybrid flat bars, they should all be fairly similar, I'd take the Pendleton as it has 7 gears vs 3 on the base model on the other 2. Only down side with the other 2 is they don't list the weight in the immediate part of the site so hard to compare. 13.4kg for the pendleton is quite hefty though

    I agree, they are all heavy lumps compared to Planet X`s London Road hybrid. Super lightweight carbon frame with disc brakes, only 9.8 kg.. I ve seen these passing through Ebay for a few hundred.
    I got my virtually new Planet X (200 miles )racer weighing less than 8 kg with Sram groupset for £600.
  • SailorSam
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    You've convinced me here on Mse that i'll enjoy cycling and it'll be good for me if i had something decent to ride. So the old Townsend that i never use can go on Freecycle, i went yesterday to Halfords and ordered a Carrera Parva to pick-up on Monday. Going out now to take the carrier & panniers off my old one ready to switch. For starters i'll only be going to the local shops on my new one.
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  • Mr_Singleton
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    sacsquacco wrote: »
    I agree, they are all heavy lumps compared to Planet X`s London Road hybrid. Super lightweight carbon frame with disc brakes, only 9.8 kg.

    Eh?

    You consider 9.8kg to be "Super lightweight"???????

    Google has thrown up this aluminium cyclocross bike at 9kg
    http://www.moda-bikes.com/portfolioentry/calore/

    For the record I'd judge a "Super lightweight" carbon bike with disc's at around 7kg
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 31 July 2016 at 12:42PM
    Eh?

    You consider 9.8kg to be "Super lightweight"???????

    Google has thrown up this aluminium cyclocross bike at 9kg
    http://www.moda-bikes.com/portfolioentry/calore/

    For the record I'd judge a "Super lightweight" carbon bike with disc's at around 7kg

    That is a few ounces lighter and double the price of a new Planet X London Road Hybrid at £800 (9.8 kg), Your example is rubbish compared to that, as is your stupid use of SEVEN question marks when one would suffice. Please don`t do that, at least in posts directed towards me, it irritates.
    Find me a hybrid at 7kilos anywhere in the world at under a grand , you re in high priced state of the art full carbon racer areas at 7 kgs costing thousands..
    The London Road is "super light " in comparison to the 13.5 kg lumps the OP was considering.Dont be so picky ! Personally I think hes bought the wrong bike but its certainly cheap at £180 but its bloody heavy at 13.8 kg.an extra 4 kgs to pedal around would`nt suit me.
  • Mr_Singleton
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    sacsquacco wrote: »
    That is a few ounces lighter and double the price of a new Planet X London Road Hybrid at £800 (9.8 kg), Your example is rubbish compared to that, as is your stupid use of SEVEN question marks when one would suffice. Please don`t do that, at least in posts directed towards me, it irritates.
    Find me a hybrid at 7kilos anywhere in the world at under a grand , you re in high priced state of the art full carbon racer areas at 7 kgs costing thousands..

    Oooooh touchy....... I object to you claiming that a near 10kg bike is "Super light" and also that a bike which you claim is carbon is in fact made from (a not so light version of) aluminium. Last but by no means least your "few ounces" difference is in fact 27.5!!!!!!!!

    Apart from that.... as you were. :p
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 31 July 2016 at 2:44PM
    Still on the Planet X theme to destroy your ludicrous recommendation of £1600 for a poorly equipped bike is the Planet X Pro Carbon Flat Bar Road Bike Sram Rival 11 speed at a SUPER LIGHT 8.2 kgs and a SUPER CHEAP £900 , makes that thing you linked to look stupid for a recommendation.Any one can do a search on Google like you did and come up with something far far better.
    The OP was looking for a value for money bike, I have seen used Pro Carbons with Flat bars go through Ebay at £250 upwards with not much use to them neither.That is the sort of bike the OP should have aspired to not a brand new awful thing which may put him off cycling for life when it falls to bits in months.Sram Rival groupset is a top groupset not far off Srams best. A great bike for commuting as well as hobby biking.Even YOU with all your multi question marks and exclamation mark stupidity can see what a good second hand buy that is ! lol
  • Mr_Singleton
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    sacsquacco wrote: »
    Still on the Planet X theme to destroy your ludicrous recommendation of £1600 for a poorly equipped bike is the Planet X Pro Carbon Flat Bar Road Bike Sram Rival 11 speed at a SUPER LIGHT 8.2 kgs and a SUPER CHEAP £900 , makes that thing you linked to look stupid for a recommendation.Any one can do a search on Google like you did and come up with something far far better.
    The OP was looking for a value for money bike, I have seen used Pro Carbons with Flat bars go through Ebay at £250 upwards with not much use to them neither.That is the sort of bike the OP should have aspired to not a brand new awful thing which may put him off cycling for life when it falls to bits in months.Sram Rival groupset is a top groupset not far off Srams best. A great bike for commuting as well as hobby biking.Even YOU with all your multi question marks and exclamation mark stupidity can see what a good second hand buy that is ! lol

    Firstly congratulations on actually finding a carbon bike rather than mistaking an aluminium one for carbon.

    Secondly, Wasn't recommending the Moda to the OP just to point out to you that your "carbon" bike wasn't "Super Light".

    Thirdly, shock horror carbon bike weighs less than aluminium one!!!!

    Fourthly, I see you've fallen for the "Sram Rival" that seems to be plastered everywhere. Strangely nobody seems to be screaming about the entry level "Vision Team 35" wheel set which one review called "overweight and sluggish". Given the choice I'd swap Sram Rival" for "Sram Apex" in a blink for the Moda's top quality wheel set.

    I agree that PlanetX has some very keen pricing but you need to factor in that its a mail order company. Bike fitting? no free tune-up after 3 months, warranty issues? waiting times etc.

    Also how can you honestly recommend a carbon bike thats over twice the max budget of the OP who hasn't ridden in years? Carbon bikes make rubbish commute bikes even more so with cheapo wheel sets???????? (yup, 8 this time :D )
  • Mr_Singleton
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    kimbyanne wrote: »
    I am buying a new bike, something for riding around town, bike rides and getting to and from the train station.

    Looking to spend no more than £350/400.

    I like the "classic" bikes but there are lots about.

    Wander down to your local chain bike shop and have a talk with them. A bike the suits somebody here might not suit you. Good time to be buying a bike as loads of big discounts.
  • Nasqueron
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    IMHO "superlight" is around 6kg - 6.8kg is the (current) minimum weight for UCI events like Le Tour and the "weight weenies" crowd would be able to go into more detail that I ever could. At that level it's a balance of price vs grammes saved and you will end up spending a lot to save a little.

    My main roadie is 8kg pretty much bang on (carbon except seat post) with ultegra 6800 all over including pedals - to lop off 409g I would have to go to dura ace 9700, maybe 10g each on the bottle cages, couple of 100g on the seat post, remove saddle bag etc and it's just not worth it.

    The bike is faster than my commuter road bike and my caadx (both about 10kg) but if I do ever go for another top of the line road bike it'll be DI2 and will probably spend 3-4 grand and I doubt it'll be much lighter than my synapse.

    The bike sacsquacco posted would be fine and is light enough to be comfortable commuting and better than the OP's hybrids but over budget.

    The other thing would be to look at ex-demo / shop spoiled stuff, Evans has the below all but the Pashley Sonnet haven't even been ridden just like shop spoil

    £250

    https://www.evanscycles.com/dawes-dawes-strawberry-2016-cruiser-bike-ex-display-EV281446

    £325

    https://www.evanscycles.com/bobbin-bicycles-birdie-2016-womens-hybrid-bike-size-40cm-ex-demo-ex-display-EV277982

    £350

    https://www.evanscycles.com/pashley-sonnet-springtime-women-s-hybrid-bike-ex-demo-ex-display-EV285034

    £449

    https://www.evanscycles.com/ridgeback-element-2016-womens-hybrid-bike-ex-demo-ex-display-EV279064

    £550

    https://www.evanscycles.com/pashley-princess-sovereign-hybrid-bike-ex-demo-ex-display-EV284264

    https://www.evanscycles.com/pashley-britannia-hybrid-bike-ex-demo-ex-display-EV284265

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

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