When should an employee be paid?

theoretica

You can also set many computers to switch on automatically on a timer. Maybe a little programming would solve the problem?

LittleVoice

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Switching the monitor off will not affect the shutdown of the computer. Once you have selected 'Shutdown' the process will complete without any further intervention from the user.

The post by theoretica said to start the shutdown process and then turn off the monitor. So I'm not sure if you are responding to that post or not.


Whilst switching off the monitor won't affect the shutdown of the computer, in my experience, automatic computer shut down does not include a complete shut down of a non-integral monitor. So it is important to mention that the monitor needs to be switched off separately.

dcouponzzzz

I've been on the other end of this situation where employees arrived dead on time, sit down and aren't working until 20 minutes after their shift start time. It prompted some interesting debates but the end result being HR confirmed they should be productive at the shift start time, excluding extenuating circumstances such as PC issues etc.
The only thing it did successfully stop was people arriving and popping to the deli for a coffee...

Our company is currently working on a green project which tracks your shift times, and will prompt power to desks to cut off when you're not expected to be there (obviously you can opt out citing role reqs).

spadoosh

I assume the boss gets their about 15 minutes earlier as they also need to be productive at 9am?

Just ask them to turn all the computers on so theyre ready for the staff.

Tiddlywinks

I see the good old British work ethic is alive and kicking.

Makes me proud...

*~Zephyr~*

basil92 wrote: »

I had this dispute with a former employer.

My start time was 9am and I was paid hourly, except they expected us in at 8.40am for a morning meeting!! Finish time 5pm but another 15 minutes was required to close down, lock up and set the alarm...So an extra 35 minutes a day unpaid! That sure as hell adds up to a lot of unpaid hours over a year.

I wouldn't object if I was being paid well..but on a low hourly rate I thought that was taking the p$sh somewhat (ok, a lot).

Was taken to task over it regularly but stood my ground. You pay me to come in early and I will...otherwise I will be there and ready to start work at 9am and not before..you already get an extra 15mins at the end of the day!!

Taking liberties imo and I suspect harder to stand your ground these days. But it really is an abuse I'm sure many, (especially) low paid employees, endure:(

Isn't this exactly the kind of thing that the Sports Direct bloke got hauled over the coals for recently?

Because staff were on minimum wage for, the extra half hour or so each day that they detained and searched them, actually pushed them under the minimum hourly rate.

Horrible way to treat employees. Refer your boss to the news reports on Mike Ashley and how the select committee viewed his practices.

silvercar

I'm actually really surprised at the amount of people who accept clock watching as normal office behaviour.

*~Zephyr~*

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

I see the good old British work ethic is alive and kicking.

Makes me proud...

That's unfair. Ok, so I am always around 30 minutes early for work, but that's becaue I CHOOSE to be (I like being able to potter about, make tea, water the plants, open the blinds, boot up the computer and write my to-do list before everyone turns up) and I'm on a very nice salary. Its all part and parcel.

But OP is on a fairly basic wage, paid hourly (I presume) and I think the employer is pushing his luck.

Yes, everyone should be at their desk and ready to work by 9am. But there's nothing to stop the boss from turning all the computers on ready.

*~Zephyr~*

silvercar wrote: »

I'm actually really surprised at the amount of people who accept clock watching as normal office behaviour.

Amongst the decently salaried yes, it would be forwned upon. It's all part of the deal, including some unpaid overtime. But for the hourly paid, it's a different matter. To expect someone to work for literally nothing is not fair.

getmore4less

It is a minimum wage issue.

An employer can decide which working time is paid an unpaid as long as they don't break the minimum wage regulations.


Work time is reasonable well defined, typically as soon as you are doing things required for the job.

that would be from the time you clock in(if clocking in is required) or start doing things like turning on computers.

You tot up all your working time and see if you are over min wage fr what they actually pay.